The American Revolution and modern times

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    I could say with all honesty that the first blue helmet I saw would get shot. When(if) foreign troops were ever deployed in America we are well past crisis and into *** mode. I feel we would be back to a Lexington and Concorde situation and all bets would be off.
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    For those of you that think the military swore an oath to protect the country, us, or the president for that matter "from all enemies foreign or domestic" may want to take a look at the oath of enlistment. Because the one I took distincly said protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. A slight difference, however it put's the power of the military squarely in the people's hands. Although POTUS is CINC...he derives that power from the Constitution and if things were TRULY going to hell...well, ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

    Now, do I think that there are enough like minded folks that would come to an agreement on how to handle this type of issue...no. But it is the way it was DESIGNED.

    As far as general elections go for the House, I believe in more of a petition method...each person that can get 10k signatures gets a vote in the house, 20k gets 2 votes and so on. Why should I be stuck with a rep who cares nothing about my concerns just because 51% of the people in my area are bleeding heart, left-wing, socialists?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Exactly the reason the U.N. troops can and would be called to prevent uprisings.

    That could backfire though. Its one thing to refuse to do your duty due to moral implications. Bringing in foregin troops that had no problems with shooting rebelling Americans could/would galvanize those in the Military to side with the rebelling Americans to eliminate the foreign threat.

    Its would be like two brothers fighting against each other. Somebody butts in and they stop fighting each other and jump on the outsider.

    None of this is new to those in the places to make such decisions. Its all been talked about before.
    If I wasn't involved in an insurrection already, bringing in foreign troops to put it down would make me be involved.

    I agree with your post on that avenue. Besides, blue helmets are so easy to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Exactly the reason the U.N. troops can and would be called to prevent uprisings.

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    If I wasn't involved in an insurrection already, bringing in foreign troops to put it down would make me be involved.

    I agree with your post on that avenue. Besides, blue helmets are so easy to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free American View Post
    For those of you that think the military swore an oath to protect the country, us, or the president for that matter "from all enemies foreign or domestic" may want to take a look at the oath of enlistment. Because the one I took distincly said protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic. A slight difference, however it put's the power of the military squarely in the people's hands. Although POTUS is CINC...he derives that power from the Constitution and if things were TRULY going to hell...well, ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC.

    Now, do I think that there are enough like minded folks that would come to an agreement on how to handle this type of issue...no. But it is the way it was DESIGNED.
    It is quite enlightening reading that so many think they are the judges of attacking the government under the pretense of defending the Constitution against domestic enemies. What they fail to understand is they would be quickly brought down as real enemies of the United States.

    Why should I be stuck with a rep who cares nothing about my concerns just because 51% of the people in my area are bleeding heart, left-wing, socialists?
    Because you live in a Constitutional republic. I suggest that you should convince your neighbors that your views are more aligned with the future well being of the nation rather than impotently threatening rebellion. Then, perhaps, your representative will not 'represent' the other 49%...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Exactly the reason the U.N. troops can and would be called to prevent uprisings.


    The UN? Obviously your post is to make humor out of a deterotating thread.

    That could backfire though. Its one thing to refuse to do your duty due to moral implications. Bringing in foreign troops that had no problems with shooting rebelling Americans could/would galvanize those in the Military to side with the rebelling Americans to eliminate the foreign threat.
    Your rebellion wouldn't last 24 hours and would inflict so little damage to the infrastructure that crushing it would be similar to swatting a fly. Then the adults would limit your perceived rights even more than you think they do now.

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    Your rebellion wouldn't last 24 hours and would inflict so little damage to the infrastructure that crushing it would be similar to swatting a fly. Then the adults would limit your perceived rights even more than you think they do now.
    You may be right.
    I guess there is no reason to fight for anything then.





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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    You may be right.
    I guess there is no reason to fight for anything then.

    I am going to sell all my guns now and get rid of all the ammo.
    Yes, there is every reason to stand up for your beliefs and attempt to effect change. The fight you desire should be at the ballot box in a battle of ideas. That is our society and that is why we have survived so long. That is the essence of our republic.

    If you bought guns and ammo to wage war against the United States then perhaps you should rethink your aresnal.

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    If you bought guns and ammo to wage war against the United States then perhaps you should rethink your aresnal.
    Having participated in various actions and shot at FOR this country, I have no plans to make war against it. Besides that, I am really fond of it.

    What I am not fond of are educated idiots that suppose to much and subvert the ideals of this country.
    I would rather stand against the cannons of the wicked than against the prayers of the righteous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SelfDefense View Post
    Yes, there is every reason to stand up for your beliefs and attempt to effect change. The fight you desire should be at the ballot box in a battle of ideas. That is our society and that is why we have survived so long. That is the essence of our republic.

    If you bought guns and ammo to wage war against the United States then perhaps you should rethink your aresnal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Having participated in various actions and shot at FOR this country, I have no plans to make war against it.
    But that is exactly the direction this thread has taken! Like a mob instigator, someone suggested rebellion and revolution and those unhappy with our government despite being part of the freest, most prosperous nation on Earth have piled on as if the suggestion should be considered for more than a nanosecond.

    What I am not fond of are educated idiots that suppose to much and subvert the ideals of this country.
    Neither am I. And I don't care if they are educated or if they are idiots. Anyone who subverts the ideals of my country is a political enemy that needs to be defeated.

    And anyone who threatens or conspires to commit treason and wage war against the United States is a real enemy that needs to be stopped.

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    you do realize

    you have just been red flagged by the fbi
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    you have just been red flagged by the fbi
    so is every post that contains the word "gun".

    So what.
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    Why is it Self Defense that when they "subvert the ideals of MY country" they need to be defeated. If you can freely sit there and call others wrong for being so sure about how it should happen, IS IT NOT POSSIBLE that you could also be wrong?

    Patriotism is not just standing behind the flag and following blindly along as the country is driven into the ground. Nobody has mentioned armed rebellion as the most desirable, practical method...nor have they said they are ready for one. What I have heard...and it seems quickly turned around as "evil thoughts" is that if it came down to the removal of our rights we would stand and fight. If YOU choose to just follow orders that go against our Constitutionally guaranteed rights then so be it. Follow the flock, but do not suppose to judge others on their belief in patriotism.

    Calling all that think differently than you your "enemies", besides being a liberal tactic, will leave you standing in a very lonely place. Good luck.
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