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    Are your "nuts" safe

    Brass thieves hit hydrants, raising fire concerns By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer
    Mon Jul 21, 1:59 PM ET

    Dogs aren't the only ones casting a longing eye at fire hydrants these days. Fire departments across the country report that thieves are twisting the brass nuts off the tops and selling them for scrap, raising concerns that the hydrants won't work when needed most.

    Firefighters responding to an April house fire in Hesperia, Calif., found that the five closest hydrants were useless because thieves had taken the nuts needed to get to the water. They called in special equipment, but by the time they got the fire under control, the house was a total loss.

    "It definitely delayed us. It's become a real problem," said Tracey Martinez, spokeswoman for the San Bernadino County Fire Department, whose firefighters now carry spare parts to access hydrants that have been tampered with, though using them can cost valuable time.

    Brass parts are fetching higher prices at scrap recyclers, though a single hydrant nut is unlikely to be worth more than $10 even in the current inflated market.

    Fire hydrants aren't the only target — thieves have stolen brass ornaments from graves in Chicago and West Virginia, chrome-plated brass piping from men's bathrooms at fast-food restaurants in Pennsylvania, and brass plaques from churches in Houston.

    But the hydrant thefts raise unique safety concerns. Officials in Prince William County in northern Virginia recently found that nearly four dozen hydrants had been stripped of their brass nuts, rendering them inoperable.

    "This is an extremely high priority concern because of the potential devastation it can cause," said Assistant Fire Chief Hadden Culp, who has never seen such a problem. "We're not used to pulling up to a hydrant and it not working."

    Earlier this month, Prince William Police arrested Douglas D. Mumaw of Strasburg and charged him with larceny and obtaining money by false pretense in connection with the thefts. Authorities are asking the public to be vigilant and report any suspicious activity or tampering with hydrants.

    So far, no vandalized hydrant has caused a delay in responding to a fire, Culp said.

    Firefighters in Columbia, S.C., have also reported stolen hydrant parts.

    John Chalk, sales manager at Kennedy Valve in Elmira, N.Y, one of the largest hydrant manufacturers, said nearly all hydrants have brass nuts that could appeal to thieves.

    Prices have doubled in the last six months and are about five times as high as in 2003, said Bruce Savage, spokesman for the Washington, D.C.-based Institute of Scrap Recycling Industries.

    Mark Zwilsky, owner of Potomac Metals Inc., said prices have been high in the last year or so, but still a five-pound brass hydrant nut would be worth only about $7.

    Zwilsky said he's not surprised that people are stealing hydrant parts. His company has installed cameras and video equipment to help police track customers who try to sell stolen scrap.

    "People are always looking for a way to make a buck," Zwilsky said.
    This is ridiculous anybody that would steal something that could result in somebody dieing as a result needs to be hog tied in the city square and beat or do like in the middle east cut 1 hand off for stealing and the guy that needs help zipping up his pants you know got caught stealing twice
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    Back home in Louisiana !!!!
    Thieves don't care. They prey on the weak, take what they can, and move on.
    So what the firefighters couldn't put the fire out and save that family. Now if justice followed dukalmighty's idea that might curb a LOT of these crimes.

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    Just a hint of what will happen in a truly bad, SHTF scenario, in which people are doing anything to survive. They will.
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    I better secure mine, they are made of brass.
    "Just blame Sixto"

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    And this is exactly why that business owner in Garland Texas 2 weeks ago was waiting for the knuckleheads to steal his A/C coils, they will do anything to get something that is not theirs.
    "Don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep." - Theodore Roosevelt


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    Copper (and brass) theft is a big issue out here. home builders hire 24 security to guard the homes being built because of thieves. a quick drive out into the desert here will show you the issue - piles of stripped wiring all over. There was an article in the local news here this morning of thieves ripped the copper out of AC units in mini-malls. Las Vegas Now | Copper Thieves Hit North Las Vegas Shopping Center

    They blame it on meth heads trying to get $ to score a hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I better secure mine, they are made of brass.

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