Stranded on the Moon: NASA survival test AND Comic Strip

Stranded on the Moon: NASA survival test AND Comic Strip

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    Stranded on the Moon: NASA survival test AND Comic Strip

    I was on another forum and saw this cartoon...


    and somehow I ended up thinking about about a survival list if you were stranded on the moon. Anyway, here's the quiz, and below are NASA's answers. Let's see how well a forum of 'survivalists' does, and if you guys agree with NASA's answer or not.
    The year is 2040. You are a member of a space crew that was to rendezvous with the mother ship on the lighted surface of the moon. You experienced mechanical difficulties and your ship was forced to land about 200 miles from the point you were to be. During re-entry and landing, much of the equipment on your ship was damaged. Your survival depends on you reaching the mother ship. You will need to survey what is left that is usable and determine the most critical undamaged items that you will take for the 200 mile trip.

    Your task is to look over the list below which contains the usable, undamaged items left on your ship, and rank them in order of their importance for your crew. Remember you need to rank each item in terms of its value in allowing you to reach the mother ship. Copy the list below or print out a copy. Place the number 1 by the most important item and keep going to number 15 which will be the least important. Be ready to explain why you have given each item the rank it received. Use your knowledge of the Moon and its environment to help you make your decisions. When you are done you can check how you did against the rankings given this same list by NASA. If you are doing this activity in your classroom, compare your rankings with other groups or individuals and hear their reasons for their rankings before checking the NASA list.


    ___ Box of matches

    ___ Food concentrate

    ___ 50 feet of nylon rope

    ___ Parachute silk

    ___ Portable heating unit

    ___ Two .45 caliber pistols

    ___ One case dehydrated milk

    ___ Two 100-pound tanks of oxygen

    ___ Stellar map (of moon's surface)

    ___ Life raft

    ___ Magnetic compass

    ___ 5 gallons of water

    ___ Signal flares

    ___ First aid kit containing injection needle

    ___ Solar-powered FM receiver-transmitter
    And here's NASA's answers
    Here is the ranking that NASA scientists gave the 15 items. See if you selected the same items as the top 5 - or most important - and identified the 5 least important. Even if your ranking numbers are not the exact same ones, your knowledge of the Moon and conditions there should have helped you decide which items fell to the very top and bottom of the list.



    Items below are listed in order from Number 1 (most important) to Number 15 (least important).

    1- Two 100 pound tanks of oxygen. Oxygen to breathe would be the most pressing need for survival.

    2 - 5 gallons of water. Water is essential to all life.

    3 - Stellar map (of moon's surface) This would be your primary means of navigation.

    4 - Food concentrate. A good source of food and efficient way to carry food is in concentrated form.

    5 - Solar-powered FM receiver-transmitter. FM needs short range and line of sight. Needed to talk to mother ship.

    6 - 50 feet of nylon rope. This will be useful in scaling the cliffs you may cross and if their are injured it would be helpful for tying them to others or objects for transport.

    7 - First aid kit containing injection needle. Used for injecting vitamins through special aperture in space suit.

    8 - Parachute silk. Provides protection from sun's rays.

    9 - Life raft. CO2 bottle in raft may be used for propulsion.

    10 - Signal flares. Distress signal can be used when mother ship is sighted.

    11 - Two .45 caliber pistols. Possible means of propulsion.

    12 - One case dehydrated milk. duplication of food concentrate but much bulkier to carry.

    13 - Portable heating unit. Useless on dark side, not needed on lighted side.

    14 - Magnetic compass. Magnetic field on moon is not polarized, compass worthless.

    15 - Box of matches. No oxygen on Moon to sustain the flame, matches won't work.
    There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil.

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    How would I eat/drink in my space suit? It's not like I can take off my helmet????

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    11 - Two .45 caliber pistols. Possible means of propulsion.
    Reminds me of Yosemite Sam, shooting his six guns and floating up into the air a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    How would I eat/drink in my space suit? It's not like I can take off my helmet????
    You ever had to wear a gas mask(MCU2P) for 18+ hours? It has a straw thingy that you can drink out of. I'm sure the space suits have something similiar.
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    True, I guess as it is food "concentrate" it would pass through a valve stem....

    I've been trying to forget the whole tube-fed Marine thing...

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    I'm not sure I'd need ropes to scale down cliffs on the moon.

    1. I could just float down, right?
    2. If stranded alone on the moon, just where would I be going in the first place?
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    I don't think the signal flares would work w/o oxygen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    2. If stranded alone on the moon, just where would I be going in the first place?
    To the mother ship of course.
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    I don't think the signal flares would work w/o oxygen.
    Signal flares generate their own oxygen, which is why they work underwater. They are oxidizers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbouchard View Post
    Signal flares generate their own oxygen, which is why they work underwater. They are oxidizers.
    Ah! Good point. I wonder what pattern the smoke would make?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodc13 View Post
    Ah! Good point. I wonder what pattern the smoke would make?
    I don't know...but I say it's high time NASA made another trip to the moon with some flares and a few .45's. Inquiring minds want to know.
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    How long would 100#'s of oxygen last you, especially when scales cliffs and that sort of thing?
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    It would depend on how much you breathed.
    I would rather stand against the cannons of the wicked than against the prayers of the righteous.


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    New students, when being introduced to SCUBA diving, will draw down a standard bottle pretty quick. With some experience they will learn to strecth it out nearly twice as long.

    One guy might make it to the mother ship,if he remains calm.
    Another, in the spaz out mode, might only make it half way because he is breathing more than he needs to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    I'm not sure I'd need ropes to scale down cliffs on the moon.

    1. I could just float down, right?
    I don;t think you would just "float" down. Although the moon's gravit is just 1/6 earth (I believe), you would still pick up speed as you went down. With no air resistance to slow you down, I think you could have a pretty hard landing.
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    OK, so no one answered the question: "Will a gun fire in a vacuum"? Or more specifically, will the primer ignite, and then set off the charge?

    If so, I would love to try a 3 mile target shoot!
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