Murder Charged, Impossible to Arrest!! What should be done?

Murder Charged, Impossible to Arrest!! What should be done?

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    Murder Charged, Impossible to Arrest!! What should be done?

    EDINBURG, Texas (AP) -- Prosecutors are trying to decide how to jail and bring to court a nearly half-ton, bedridden woman accused of killing her 2-year-old nephew.

    A grand jury on Thursday indicted Mayra Lizbeth Rosales, 27, on one count of first-degree murder and on one count of injury to a child in the death of Eliseo Gonzalez Jr. She previously had been charged with capital murder.

    Rosales weighs nearly 1,000 pounds and cannot fit through a door to leave her home, leaving prosecutors wondering how to bring her to court. As of Thursday evening, she was not in custody.

    Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino said holding her at the county jail for her trial would be impossible because she needs extensive medical care.

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    "She would die," said Trevino in Thursday's online edition of The Monitor in McAllen.

    The grand jury indicted Rosales after an autopsy confirmed investigators' suspicions that the child died March 18 because he had been struck. Investigators believe the toddler was struck at least twice, crushing his head.

    Authorities recommended Rosales' bond be set at $150,000.

    The boy's mother Jaime Rosales, was charged earlier with injury to a child because she allegedly left her son alone with his aunt. Her bond has been set at $100.000.


    OK...what would be appropriate action by the city here? Essentially she is already in her own prison...jailing would be an undue burden to the system.

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    Its called a flat bed wrecker........had to use one once when I was a LEO. Drug dealer weight was 400+. Used a chain saw to open up the door way........
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    "She would die," said Trevino
    And the problem is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paco View Post
    And the problem is...

    COMPLETELY agree!!!

    However, as far as the wrecker goes. At 400 lbs you do not need constant mendical care. This lady is 1000+ lbs!!! I almost want to believe she did this because she knew there was nothing worse that could happen than the situation she was already in. As a matter of fact, her situation will most likely get better now.

    She doesn't have to pay for any of the medical care, and since they changed the charges from captial murder to first degree murder the death penalty is off the table. All she can get is a life sentence, and she already is serving one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free American View Post


    She doesn't have to pay for any of the medical care, and since they changed the charges from captial murder to first degree murder the death penalty is off the table. All she can get is a life sentence, and she already is serving one of those.
    Take away her twinkies, her comfy mattress and the tv, and give her nothing but water, plain yogurt, and salad for the rest of her miserable life.

    But that's just me.....
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    Why can't they just bring the needles to her house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David in FL View Post
    Take away her twinkies, her comfy mattress and the tv, and give her nothing but water, plain yogurt, and salad for the rest of her miserable life.

    But that's just me.....
    thats more than a lot of people get in some countries.

    and they aren't even in jail.
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    I don't suppose she's a flight risk . . .
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    O.K., Agree. No flight risk. And would likely be out on bond if arrested.

    Surely there is a way to process her (fingerprints, mug shots, whatever) within her home. Save the money on the ankle bracelet, she isn't going anywhere.

    Set up cameras in the house. Have a trial with her appearing to the court over closed circuit.

    If convicted, deliver a physician prescribed diet to the house- and let nothing more in. Cut off the TV cable and phone.

    She'll be deprived of liberty, and be receiving treatment.

    Sometimes we (our officials) just have to figure a way to roll with a situation.

    There real problem here is that anything done to move forward would be breaking new ground legally, and therefore subject any conviction to being overturned.

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    I'm with kerbouchard on this one; then board up her house, soak it with diesel and burn it down......

    That way we are sure to kill the infection
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    Quote Originally Posted by rodc13 View Post
    I don't suppose she's a flight risk . . .
    +1

    And probably not on Delta, American, United, Southwest, or Continental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reborn View Post
    Its called a flat bed wrecker........had to use one once when I was a LEO. Drug dealer weight was 400+. Used a chain saw to open up the door way........
    Sooooo, where did you put the hook? Exactly?
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    IF you cant bring her to court, bring the "court" to her.

    The whole proceeding could be done electronically.

    Leaver her at the house, put a computer with a camera in front of her and go.
    She can be present for the proceedings and speak when needed.

    When she gets convicted of murder, then stick about a two fool long needle in her and fill it with enough drug to kill a dozen or so horses.

    How hard can that be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    IF you cant bring her to court, bring the "court" to her.

    The whole proceeding could be done electronically.

    Leaver her at the house, put a computer with a camera in front of her and go.
    She can be present for the proceedings and speak when needed.

    When she gets convicted of murder, then stick about a two fool long needle in her and fill it with enough drug to kill a dozen or so horses.

    How hard can that be?
    +1

    She's already under house arrest.
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