Faking A GSW

This is a discussion on Faking A GSW within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by gg12 course you could always put a cat inside the shirt and shoot it...... JUST KIDDING!! But then you've got all the ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gg12 View Post
    course you could always put a cat inside the shirt and shoot it......

    JUST KIDDING!!
    But then you've got all the fur............
    Sometimes I wonder who the old man in the mirror is....

    Lord, Grant me a good sword and no need to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    But then you've got all the fur............
    Shave it first. Let's not dismiss cat death out of hand, now. There is merit to the concept.

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    LOL I could do the cat but then I'd have to worry about all the forensic kitty evidence and that's just a hassle.


    I went ahead and did it this morning because I had time. A local LEO actually helped me out. We went to a small pit and did the shoots. We hung the shirts on a target stand. My 'blood' recipe was awful as were most of the internet ones I found. So I used red food coloring, water, and chocolate powder. Didn't have time to find a decent jello recipe.

    I'll post pictures when I get home. We also trapped two rounds in water jugs. One was my Speer GDHP 165gr and the other was a 180gr Winchester Ranger SXT JHP. The differences were utterly astounding. I'll post pictures when I get back to my place.
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    Annnd here's the pictures. I realize how ridiculous the 12ga looks. Not much I can do about it. Thoughts? Comments? I love the difference in JHP expansion.

    1) Federal 00Buck at six feet. Shot using a Mossberg 500A.



    2) Speer Gold Dot 165gr at 3-4 feet. Four shots from the left. Four from the right. Shot with an HK USPc .40 and a Glock 22.



    3) Winchester 7.62x39 at 25 feet. Three shots done from an SKS, unsupported.



    4) Winchester Ranger SXT 180gr JHP at six inches. The gun used was a Glock 22. This was done to demonstrate what GSR can look like at close range.



    5) We trapped two JHPs into water. The one on the left is a Speed GDHP 165gr. The one on the right is a Winchester Ranger SXT 180gr JHP. Phone used for size reference.
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    Is the Glock Ported?
    Sometimes I wonder who the old man in the mirror is....

    Lord, Grant me a good sword and no need to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    Is the Glock Ported?
    No. It was a 2nd Gen Glock 22 with no mods whatsoever.
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    Was the shot to the upper right shoulder done at an upward angle?
    Sometimes I wonder who the old man in the mirror is....

    Lord, Grant me a good sword and no need to use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pgrass101 View Post
    Was the shot to the upper right shoulder done at an upward angle?
    The officer is a little shorter than the stand I had so yes, probably. But not much. Maybe 5-8 degrees.
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    Look at the residue pattern and notice on the shoulder shot how it is spread above the hole.

    If you look at the COM one it is a classic star pattern.

    Is the Officer right handed? I ask because there is more residue toward the neck than the shoulder.
    Sometimes I wonder who the old man in the mirror is....

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    Indeed he is right handed. Good point about the burns, too. I'll point that out to my professor!
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    Ranger SXT FTW!!!
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    I'm a little late, but here's a recipe for home made ballistics gel:
    DIY ballistic gel - Hack a Day
    Suspend small blood packets in the gel for a semi-real splatter effect.
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    Thanks SixBravo for the Pictures!!!

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    Corn syrup and red food dye. Looks and acts just like real blood. It is used in a lot of theatrical productions. Sticky yes, but it is very close to blood in how it acts and looks.

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    Of course dried blood is dark red to black, and stiff. And smelly, but that's something worth not replicating. Those shirts are way too clean. Might want to work in some dirt, grass, sweat stains, beer, etc. to simulate the victim's actions before and after the event, as well as smears not proximal to the entry point. Gunshot victims will have smears of blood, debris, etc. in the strangest places.
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