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Economy Woes & Family

This is a discussion on Economy Woes & Family within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie Besides my normal preparation of ammo, food, and barter goods, I'm buying depressed stock. I'm just depressed!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie View Post
    Besides my normal preparation of ammo, food, and barter goods, I'm buying depressed stock.
    I'm just depressed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImaShepardRU View Post
    Uh....yup. I think that's where we're headed

    I would think that those who care for this country would begin a "great miss-behaving" instead of letting that happen.
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    Those living on the edge will be pushed over the edge.

    I'm afraid this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxi Driver View Post
    Those living on the edge will be pushed over the edge.
    This is going to show a lot of people that they are in fact living on the edge, even though they dont know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    But that only lasts so long, being a preacher I'm sure you know all about giving a man a fish vs. teaching him how to fish.
    Agreed that is very tru. It probaly would not hurt to know a little about a garden and doing some canning either. If I can t make it I am going to some old cogers house to see what he has in the basement. Then again I might Get Shot! Anyhow I agree.
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    It's Inevitable

    This current financial crisis may be dealt with for the short term but this country IS on the way to huge problems. Eventually I believe there will be a revolution/civil war, chaos in the streets. Thirty years ago the two parties fought over such things as which new bomber to fund, which new national forest to designate or whether to fund a new renovation of the white house. Today there is a huge difference in their fight but it pretty much comes down to being complete socialists or trying to save capitalism. You can't have bigger government and less government at the same time.
    We are giving the country to illegal immigrants, The bottom 60 % of the population pays only 1 % of all the income taxes collected. Millions of people get "tax refunds" and paid no income tax. Nobama keeps saying he will cut taxes for 95 % of us. That is absurd since 40% pay NONE already. The American people have become totally dependent on government taking care of them. The military is at war, but America is at the mall.
    Pardon me for venting, but I feel I earned the right. When I was a young man I wrote a blank check for the amount of up to, and including the value of my life, for the US government to use as they desired. I honored that promise for 30 years in the military. I would willingly have given my life for this country. Not now. It is no longer, and never will be, the country I loved. I will defend my family to the death, but will not fight for a bunch of foreigners who wouldn't even fight for themselves.

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    I can't say that I am upbeat today either!

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    I believe our economy is a house of cards, and we can't trust the political hacks in Washington, who caused most of the problem, to fix it. What ever happened to saving $$ to buy what we can afford? You think it's bad now, people are leveraged to the max and the credit card shoe will drop. Have 6mo supply food house is paid for and a pile of ammo. As with CC I don't tell anyone, don't need them to come a knocking when the SHTF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by airbornerangerboogie View Post
    During the great depression the US was still self-sufficient, we had more agribusiness (farmers and ranchers), in fact there was still that independent thinking versus the group (herd) mentality. Communities were made up of individuals who provided for themselves and supported the common good, that I'm afraid is seriously lacking in today's "Global Economy". Too many citizens have lost the independent spirit and that makes them very dangerous when their world starts to crumble and they begin to turn feral. I'm thinking that if the SHTF, I would really not want to be living in the city. That is were it'll breakdown the quickest IMO, from there it'll spread to suburbia. I'm not sure it'll come to that, but I'll hope for the best and prepare for the worst.
    This is a really great and interesting point; I hadn't thought much about that. Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by anchor44 View Post
    This current financial crisis may be dealt with for the short term but this country IS on the way to huge problems. Eventually I believe there will be a revolution/civil war, chaos in the streets. Thirty years ago the two parties fought over such things as which new bomber to fund, which new national forest to designate or whether to fund a new renovation of the white house. Today there is a huge difference in their fight but it pretty much comes down to being complete socialists or trying to save capitalism. You can't have bigger government and less government at the same time.
    We are giving the country to illegal immigrants, The bottom 60 % of the population pays only 1 % of all the income taxes collected. Millions of people get "tax refunds" and paid no income tax. Nobama keeps saying he will cut taxes for 95 % of us. That is absurd since 40% pay NONE already. The American people have become totally dependent on government taking care of them. The military is at war, but America is at the mall.
    Pardon me for venting, but I feel I earned the right. When I was a young man I wrote a blank check for the amount of up to, and including the value of my life, for the US government to use as they desired. I honored that promise for 30 years in the military. I would willingly have given my life for this country. Not now. It is no longer, and never will be, the country I loved. I will defend my family to the death, but will not fight for a bunch of foreigners who wouldn't even fight for themselves.
    I know that a lot of people feel the same way you do, and rightfully so. I havent spent 30 years at work yet, maybe half that, and I feel ripped off everytime I look at my pay stub... only to go out and "protect and serve" the leaches of society. To many leaches sucking the blood out will kill anything; we have far to many leaches.
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    I've got a few hundred .45acp and 9mm waiting, and a few 00 buck. I hope to god I don't ever have to reach for any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgriffin70 View Post
    How many here fearing as the economy woes worsen, thus more personal crimes.... robbery, burglary, theft, break ins, etc.

    Personally, I do think about it. Not to turn this into a political thread, but we're obviously facing some tough times ahead. I think we've only just begun, and it likely could get much worse!

    Then I start thinking just how desperate some people may become in order to have things, and wonder... just how much more aware I must be to keep what is mine safe!

    Thoughts?
    I think this thread has gone off track a little.
    you ask how much more aware you must be?
    Simple,carry as often as you can because you and I do not know
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    But that only lasts so long, being a preacher I'm sure you know all about giving a man a fish vs. teaching him how to fish.
    Yep, teach a man to fish, and he'll drink beer all day!
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    As far as any economic SHTF scenario, we (the boss and I) are prepared. I can close the door and windows and live for a few months without electric, or heat (gotta' love FL).

    I don't think that there will be a complete meltdown, but times could get pretty tough for a short while. The police are sure going to be busy.

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    If the markets drop much, its going to be very interesting to see how people adjust. I'm wondering how many will actually adapt, and how many will flip out and others will do nothing.
    More interesting than that, is watching the political positioning surrounding this. The timing is no accident IMO.

    Back on topic, I think things will be like the holiday season as far as crime goes; What I mean is, every year at holiday time, robbery and theft crimes increase, as does personal crimes and suicides. People start feeling the pinch from social and economic pressures. The BG's see people out with something they don't have, money. A tough economy will do the same thing, but on a larger scale.

    I personally always better arm myself (with both hardware and "software")
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    Sixto, why would the timing be no accident? What does the Bush administration have to gain for the republican party for requesting 700 billion dollars that a lot of republican house and sentate members are not going to vote for, especially when the initial request was for no oversight and no strings attached. That is the part that I can phathom.

    I don't think the financial institutions timed their total collapses with the elections either. It just ended up that way. Their shell games finally caught up with them.

    What I can not understand is the folks saying companies won't be able to make their payrolls or purchase product or whatever. IMO, if you can't make your payroll, or product without borrowing money then you probably don't need the doors on your business open in the first place.

    If the limits on the personal credit cards drop, oh well, most people are over extended on them in the first place. It is funny that the markets have somewhat recovered from the initial shock of the stimulus package failing. If it draws on for another week or so, and things just slow down, maybe people will see that it isn't really all gloom and doom and will just learn to adjust.

    You are right, that if things turn south a bit, the holiday season will be interesting. Those full days of shopping going from store to store with a car full of packages will need to be rethought. Maybe one store, then drop the goods back off at home and not leave things in your auto where a quick break of glass will result in your lost items. Purse snatching and check fraud will likely go up along with other crimes in general.
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