This is a discussion on JFK assassination within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by Superman Conspiracy? Um..no. Good for the country? Um...yeah. Again though, good riddance to bad rubbish. I didn't want to type it but ...
I was in the 3rd grade, living on a military base in the Canal Zone of Panama at the time. The principal announce the assassination and we all left school early. I couldn't understand why anyone would want to kill the president. It made the world seem a whole lot less safer. The evidence suggests that there was more that one shooter. I wonder when the real story will come to light.
Wow, sixth and seventh grade. A lot of you folks are OLD!
I was in seventh grade, too.
I was in gym class, and my mother came to the school fence and told me. The teachers were listening to it on radios. Students were crying. I was just stunned. How could this be?
I have no information that would allow me to decide if it's a conspiracy or not. Either way, a man was killed in cold blood, and that stinks.
Does this account explain the other killing that Oswald was accussed of committing on the other side of town relative to the death of patrolmen trippet (not sure of the spelling). Does it explain what caused the police to arrest Oswald in the first place, the lack of records of the police interviews with Oswald, or Oswald's motive. These are all of the sort of things that are usually needed to tie up a case in a conclusive manner. There will always be a lot questions when ever there is no trial of the accused.
A carcarno rifle is not necessarily a bad rifle, but it requires some medium level gunsmithing to get it to preform properly. I have fired a couple of them in stock condition and the actions were quite stiff. Klein's of Chicago had sold the warren commission carcarno to someone via mail order for about $20 with a scope mounted. It is my understanding that the scope of the recovered rifle was loose. I remember that the rifle was first claimed by the news media to be a 91 argentine mauser. Anyway a lot the facts in the case are quite unclear and I and a lot of people are doubtful over the Warren comission's conclusions.
The fact that the Kennedy familty went along with it is strange, my only explanation is that they were either bought off and/or were extremely scared. LBJ benefited from the killing and was not a man you wanted to opposed.
Extremely scared? Again, these were among the richest and most powerful people imaginable. Scared? How do you scare someone who could with a few words on TV bring you down (I assume you are implying LBJ did it.) How long would he have lasted if any of the Kennedy family publicly made that accusation? How fast can you say impeachment.
For the Kennedy haters, we went down a very wrong set of pathways in the aftermath. We pushed a war which I think would have been managed more wisely had he still been around. We got Nixon elected because of Johnson's failures. And we got Jimmy Carter because of Nixon's failures. I'm not sure we ever got things set right; and still are suffering the consequences of the Kennedy assassination.
We'd be a bazillion miles ahead if Bobby K. had lived and run a successful campaign in 1968. Does anyone really think Nixon would have beaten him?
History was warped and our future was warped. The assassination was one of the worst calamities to befall us.
No one would have beaten Bobby Kennedy, not because he was a great man, or had any idea what to do, he was a Kennedy and would have been elected on his family name and brothers memory. I saw him when he made a campaign stop at Notre Dame. He could avoid an issue and tap dance better than Bill Clinton! JMO
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Wealth gives you some power and some "juice", but not omnipotence. The Kennedy clan did not directly control the CIA, the pentagon, or FBI. Neither RFK or JFK got along well with FBI director Hoover or VP and then president LBJ at all. No coverup could have occured without the cooperation of these two. It is possible that some day the Kennedy Clan may make a move, but the bottom line is what is in it for them if they do? What will come out of it. What are the skeletons that may be lying in closets that will be exposed. Blackmail can be almost as effective against rich public people as is a bullet. By the way the FBI in those days kept files on important politicians and knew where the dirt was.
I do not think that LBJ did it. He benefited from it. At the time Kennedy may have been thinking of stopping the Vietnam build up and people blamed him for backing out on Cuba. This would have been against the interests of a lot of people with the means to kill anyone that stood in their way.
As for the Kennedy family being quiet. Looking at the less powerful ML King family, they were quiet for a long time and it was not till the Clinton regime that they said anything. They did not get very far since clinton was not going to help them. In that case there was also no trial since ray took a plea and there are a lot of unanswered questions about that killing also. What ever ray knew went to the grave with him as it did with oswald and ruby.
I will say this about the assasination:
1) it was a conspiracy. no doubt. I say this because a doctor friend of our family (Dr. Red Duke) was one of the emergency room physicians at Parkland hospital when they brought the President into the emergency room on that fateful day. He has sworn up and down that the head shot to the President entered the right front part of his skull and exited the left rear, consistent with a shot from the grassy knoll. Dr. Duke is a trauma surgeon who has seen thousands of gunshot wounds in his career, and teaches trauma medicine at the UT health science center in Houston. I would trust his word over just about anybody's
2) If there was only one gunman, then the case evidence would support it, and it does not. Shows like mythbusters have only served to validate the "magic bullet" theory with their reenactments.
3) the most damning evidence of all comes from our government itself. If they are so sure that one guy did it, then why all the secrecy? Why all the sealed records that won't be viewable until 2030 or something like that? Why did the Presidents' body suddenly disappear after being rushed out of the hospital before trained forensic medical examiners could perform their tests? Where did the presidents' brain disappear to?
I had a chance to speak with Dr. Duke during a family function, as we were discussing the movie "JFK" that had come out, and red told me not to believe the crap that our government put out about the assasination; He said that the wounds he saw were proof enough that there was a conspiracy and that the government not allowing anyone to do a formal autopsy on the body was proof enough of a conspiracy.
My personal feeling, aside from Dr. Duke and what I know about shooting leads me to believe that the good Doctor is absolutely right.....
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry
Here's yet another benefit to taking an LFI class. We discussed the Kennedy assassination at length while talking about Witness Dynamics.
After the introduction of these findings, the publisher agreed to an out of court settlement with the Hickey family and the book "Mortal Error" has since been pulled from publication. Even now, if you follow the Amazon link above, you'll see that it is only available 'used' from private sellers.
The JFK assassination may well have been a conspiracy, but it was the result of a lone gunman, and that gunman wasn't Hickey.
How about just the 0-10 number, and a group name for this thread?
Helpful hints on pushing back and strengthening the 2A:
Benthic: I agree with your last post except for the can not imagine part.
Check this site out. It shows some interesting photos that is supposed to be Oswald in the ground doorway of the repository watching the Kennedy motorcade.
'LEE OSWALD HARVEY COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE SHOT PRESIDENT JOHN KENNEDY' >> Four Winds 10 - fourwinds10.com
Be interesting if the conclusions and the photos are correct.
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