Legislative Alert

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    Today I received the following email from an LEO friend of mine. Some of you guys might be interested in it and may want to respond during the time allotted for public comments.

    Here is the email:
    On December 4, 2008 a document referred to as the "Defense Support of Civil Authorities" (DSCA) was entered into the Federal Register. I have attached this document for you to read. This section of the Federal Register contains notices to the public of the proposed issuance of rules and regulations. The purpose of these notices is to give interested persons an opportunity to participate in the rule making process prior to the adoption of the final rules. This document was submitted by the Department of Defense. The deadline for public comment is February 2, 2009. In layman's words, this document appears to do 2 things which are seemingly very unconstitutional! It gives power to the military to take over civilian law enforcement authorities and can be done at the behest of a Presidential Executive Order. It is very broad in its scope and seems to have no restriction as to the circumstances that this could be done. Please read the document for yourself. It is imperative that everyone make a public comment condemning this action. If you would like to go directly to the source to obtain this document it can be found at:

    In order to read the proposed legislation go the the following website: Regulations.gov In the "Search Documents" field and enter "DSCA" The first entry at the top of the results page will be "Defense Support of Civil Authorities". In order to read the complete document click on the small .pdf icon where it says "view this document." It will open a 5 page pdf copy of the proposed legislation.


    If you would like to submit a public comment, you can go to the "public comment form" for this bill at this link: Regulations.gov
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    YIKES!!

    (h) Federal military forces shall not be
    used to quell civil disturbances or
    perform civilian law enforcement
    functions (e.g., search, seizure, arrest,
    and surveillance) unless specifically
    authorized by the President
    or the
    Secretary of Defense in accordance with
    applicable law (e.g., chapter 15 of title
    10, U.S.C.)
    "Brains before Bullets"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrLewall View Post
    YIKES!!

    (h) Federal military forces shall not be
    used to quell civil disturbances or
    perform civilian law enforcement
    functions (e.g., search, seizure, arrest,
    and surveillance) unless specifically
    authorized by the President
    or the
    Secretary of Defense in accordance with
    applicable law (e.g., chapter 15 of title
    10, U.S.C.)
    That could fall under the unconstitutional 'executive orders' couldn't it?

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    This needs much more attention than it is recieving here.

    Michael

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    I am afraid that "attention" is not going to help any.

    They voted for him and this is what they (and we) get.

    Live with it and stock up on ammo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AEA View Post
    I am afraid that "attention" is not going to help any.

    They voted for him and this is what they (and we) get.

    Live with it and stock up on ammo!
    Actually the attention will work. Last year many of us were in on a grass roots effort to stop a planned OSHA ruling on shipping of black powder. Many of us were involved long before it got the NRA's attention. This would have crippled a sport very dear to me an others.

    Due to our actions such as posting on every available forum on the net and letting gun groups know about the government backed down.
    Never roll over for them.

    Michael

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    I have no issue with it...it is peppered with "All requests for assistance from
    civil authorities" throughout the document. And honestly, our country has a long history of providing military support in time of chaos, especially were the civil law enforcement did not have the manpower or equipment to protect the public interests.

    Rick

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    The vehicles for this are the Stafford Act (provide assistance to another Fed agency) and the Insurrection Act. The former would be used to assist FEMA (hurricanes) or NIFC (CA wildfires), for instance. The latter is pretty self-explanatory.
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