Verichip - hackable!!!

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    Verichip - hackable!!!

    I wonder if this might even spell the death of this odious device.?

    http://www.spychips.com/verichip/una...questions.html

    VERICHIP RFID IMPLANT HACKED! Will Security Problems Quash IPO Plans for
    Controversial Company?

    The VeriChip can be hacked! This revelation along with other worrisome
    details could put a crimp in VeriChip Corporation's planned initial public
    offering (IPO) of its common stock, say Katherine Albrecht and Liz McIntyre.

    The anti-RFID activists and authors of "Spychips: How Major Corporations and
    Government Plan to Track Your Every Move with RFID" make no bones about
    their objection to VeriChip's plans to inject glass encapsulated RFID tags
    into people. But now they've discovered information that could call
    VeriChip's entire business model into question.

    "If you look at the VeriChip purely from the business angle, it's a
    ridiculously flawed product," says McIntyre. She notes that security
    researcher Jonathan Westhues has shown how easy it is to clone a VeriChip
    implanted in a person's arm and program a new chip with the same number.

    Westhues, known for his prior work cloning RFID-based proximity cards, has
    posted his VeriChip cloning demo online at http://cq.cx/verichip.pl.

    The VeriChip "is not good for anything," says Westhues, has absolutely no
    security and "solves a number of different non-problems badly."

    The chip's security issues may spell trouble for those who have had one of
    the microchips embedded in their flesh. These include eighteen employees in
    the Mexican Attorney General's office who use an implanted chip to enter a
    sensitive records room, and a handful bar patrons in Europe who use the
    injected chips to pay for drinks. "What are these people going to do now
    that their chips can be cloned?" says McIntyre. "Wear tinfoil shirts or keep
    everyone at arm's length?"

    Albrecht quips, "A man with a chip in his arm may soon find himself
    wondering whether that cute gal on the next bar stool likes his smile or
    wants to clone his VeriChip. It gives new meaning to the burning question,
    'Does she want my number?'"

    But the VeriChip's problems don't stop there, says McInytre, who is also a
    former bank examiner and financial writer. She has carefully analyzed the
    company's SEC registration statement and associated chipping information and
    discovered serious flaws. It turns out the company's own literature
    indicates that chipped patients cannot undergo an MRI if they're
    unconscious. What's more, the company admits that critical medical
    information linked to the chip could be unavailable in a real emergency.
    "These issues call VeriChip's promotional campaigns and business plan into
    question," McIntyre says.

    The instructions provided to medical personnel warn that chipped patients
    should not undergo an MRI unless they are fully alert and able to
    communicate any "unusual sensations or problems," like movement or heating
    of the implant. This conflicts with company's efforts to promote people who
    cannot speak for themselves, such as Alzheimer's patients, those with
    dementia, the mentally disabled, and people concerned about entering an
    emergency room unconscious.

    "The irony is that implantees will have to wear a Medic Alert bracelet or
    bear some obvious marking so they aren't mistakenly put in an MRI machine,"
    Albrecht says.

    Chipped patients might also have to wear a Medic Alert bracelet as a back-up
    in case the VeriChip database containing their critical medical information
    is unavailable. The fine print on the back of the VeriChip Patient
    Registration Form warns implantees that "the Company does not warrant...that
    the website will be available at any particular time," and physicians are
    told the product might not function in places where there are ambient radio
    transmissions--like ambulances. In addition, patients are required to waive
    any claims related to the product's "merchantability and fitness." The
    waiver paragraph as it appears on the form is reprinted below:

    "Patient...is fully aware of any risks, complications, risks of loss, damage
    of any nature, and injury that may be associated with this registration.
    Patient waives all claims and releases any liability arising from this
    registration and acknowledges that no warranties of any kind have been made
    or will be made with respect to this registration. ALL WARRANTIES, WHETHER
    EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, HOWEVER ARISING, WHETHER BY OPERATION OF LAW OR
    OTHERWISE, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF
    MECHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE EXCLUDED AND WAIVED.
    IN NO EVENT SHALL THE COMPANY BE LIABLE TO PATIENT FOR ANY INCIDENTAL,
    SPECIAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING LOST INCOME OR SAVINGS) ARISING
    FROM ANY CAUSE WHATSOEVER, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THEIR POSSIBILITY, REGARDLESS
    OF WHETHER SUCH DAMAGES ARE SOUGHT BASED ON BREACH OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE,
    OR ANY OTHER LEGAL THEORY." [Emphasis in the original.]

    "For a life or death medical device, that's unbelievable," says McIntyre. "I
    wouldn't buy toilet paper that required that kind of a disclaimer, never
    mind a product that's supposed to serve as a lifeline in an emergency."

    McIntyre contacted the VeriChip Corporation for comments on these issues and
    was initially promised a response. When the company failed to get to get
    back to her, McIntyre followed up and was told that the employee had been
    instructed not to answer her questions. The unanswered questions, along with
    photos of the VeriChip and associated literature, are available at
    http://www.spychips.com/verichip/una...questions.html .
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    Death To The Chip

    There ARE already U.S. patents to embeddable RFID Chips that can be tracked VIA Satellite & can deliver a disabling transmitted shock to the person that has one "installed" ~
    If they have been patented then there ARE working prototypes that already exist. (A Patent Requirement)

    Prisoners ~ Incarcerated Felons ~ & Sex Offenders may be the first "citizens" to have those implanted.

    Major world corporations really want to see the RFID move forward so that they can track consumer buying habits.
    They are already starting with products that have hidden tiny RFID micro-chips installed in them so that they can track the life & destinations of their product.

    Required embedded RFID tags will probably get their first push into mainstream life by being a military requirement to replace the "Dog Tag" ~ Many younger generation folks have actually been polled in favor of an embedded RFID to replace their M.A.C. Cards & Credit Cards & very much favor a Cashless Society.

    Just FYI

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    I feel a shudder comin on QK

    Can we talk - ''thin end of wedge''!
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    So Do I

    Us older folks are probably going to (thankfully) miss out on the embedded chip but, it IS going to be the eventual unstoppable Wave Of The Future.

    BTW...they are sealed in a tiny, inert glass capsule so that they can be Deeply Embedded & cannot be "dug out" like the ones placed just under the skin in pets.

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    No thanks ill pass who thing is creepy

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    I've already found these RFID tracking chips in purchases from WalMart and other electronics stores:

    And I'm sure that you have seen the TV commercial with the woman from the "Help Desk" that stops the 18 wheeler in the desert and tells the driver that the RFID chip says that he is lost. Scary stuff!
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter
    BTW...they are sealed in a tiny, inert glass capsule so that they can be Deeply Embedded & cannot be "dug out" like the ones placed just under the skin in pets.
    Oh, I'd find a way to get it out and AirMail it to Australia!
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    Yes, that is what I heard.
    That some products already contain a RFID...so that you can buy one product & the marketing people can tell what other stores you walk into because the "chip" gets scanned at the other shop doors.

    Again...that is what I heard but, I have no proof.

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    can you say 666

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    OR...if they accidentally inject it upside down...999

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    Eventually every man woman and child will have it or a form of it embedded in their right hand. Whether its 10 or 20 years from now...its just a matter of time. What we are seeing now are the forerunners of it.

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    Maybe I can actually be glad I am so old!!

    ''Government of the people by the Government's RFID chips" Goodbye liberty!
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    It will be a requirement on farm animals in Arkansas by 2008, Horses, cattle, sheep, hogs! We've already received confirmation from the ag department. Can people be far behind.

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    The only thing that progresses faster than technology is the technology to fool it.

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    put that thing in me ???? they can kiss........ !!!!

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