I was 'pegged' at Wally-World!

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    Thumbs down I was 'pegged' at Wally-World!

    I don't dress like a pig turd. I always wear jeans and a t-shirt, and either boots or sneakers. If it is winter, I wear the Carhart. The wife always looks good no matter where we go. So-I was a bit taken back Monday at Walmart as we were pegged as potential thiefs.

    We walked in, got a cart, and headed down the produce aisle looking for the stuff on the wife's list. Everything was cool till about 4 rows in, I notice a tall man with a military hair cut. He is wearing a black jacket, unzipped. Jeans and boots just like me. Hands is his pockets, and he is looking at canned goods. What strikes me as odd is he has no cart and no carry basket. Must be he isn't shopping for much. I pay it no mind and continue shopping. (Keep in mind, my P-3AT is on my ankle.)

    We get over to the milk and eggs, and again I see Mr. Haircut. This time he is in the cereal aisle. Again, just appears to be looking, but this time I notice he has a straight line of sight right at my wife and I. Alright, I am getting aggrevated.

    We get the dog food and cleaning supplies, then head to the DVDs. I am a DVD junky and buy at least 1 a week, sometimes more. We are checking out the new releases from last Tuesday, and low and behold, Mr. Haircut is checking out some DVDs right on the other side of the rack. Hmmmm.

    Finally, we head around the sporting goods, past the car stuff, hardware, and toys, and to the gardening supplies where I begin searching for the seeds I want for the garden this year. I am kneeling down deciding which kind of lettuce I want, and my wife kneels beside me and says, "Is that guy following us?" I thought, no way. So, I stand up and guess who is about 15 feet away from us? Mr. Haircut checking out some humidifiers. Again, no cart, no basket, hands in pockets.

    I have had enough. I walk over to him and say, "Hey buddy, can I help you with something?" He just kinda looks at me. So, I continue. I tell him that everywhere I have been in the store, he has been. I tell him that I noticed he doenst have a cart or a basket, and hasnt even picked anything up off the shelf, and he has looked at about 20 different unrelated things. I also tell him that my wife and I have $300 worth of groceries in our cart, and if he thinks we are about to steal something, he is barking up the wrong damn tree. I tell him my wife and I are not criminals and I would appreciate it if he would stop following me like some kind of super cop.

    He looked surprise, then muttered something about shopping and walked away. When we checked out I asked for a manager, then let the manager know that their security should do a better job of being 'undercover' and that I did not appreciate being followed around like a criminal. She apologized and we were on our way.

    I guess cause I am big, bald, and tatooed dumb **** is just gonna follow me...

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    KT, don't take it too wrong. A guy that used to steal from my employer was a tall dark and gruesome type who wore expensive designer suits.

    Families are often some of the most organized and cunning theives around, especially if they have children to help them.

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    I've walked out of place like that after letting the ,angers know i didn't appreciate it and ya should see there eyes when you pull cash out and say i was gonna spend this here but I'm off to _____ insert store name here

    Last time i had this happen i was in company jacket and uniform with company van visible from checkout windows .. What a joke like I'm gonna steal I'm my uni with van right there with big big phone
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    That's the risk the store takes. Honestly if you caught them, they suck at it. Our LP guy was slick and used technology to his advantage too.

    But keep in mind the scum that does steal costs YOU hundreds if not thousands of dollars a year. Every crook they catch keeps prices lower for you.

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    Hey - he could have been more subtle tho - sheesh! I am no security expert but if I was doing that job I'd have at least a hand basket - more likely a cart with stuff in it.

    I think too I would be p'd off at something so obviously unsubtle.

    I agree with Euc too - the ''family shop'' is sometimes the fave method for thieving.

    Maybe this event will help him hone his ''sleuthing'' skills
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    This dude looked like he was straight out of bootcamp! If you put him in a line up and said, "Now which one is the nark" anyone could pin him. He didnt even try to seem like a shopper.

    My wife worked at Ames in highschool. She said they had 2 people there that did this job and both were older women. That makes a lot more sense to me cause no one is going to suspect the 50 year old lady looking at slacks.

    I really wanted to punch this guy in the throat, but I understand he was just doing his job. However, there were a lot more people in that store looking shady then us. Especially when my wife has all her 'bling bling' on! LOL!
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    Amigo, it must have been your stoic presence that tipped him off. Out of the ordinary, ya know... and not a sheeple. I just wonder what his reaction would have been if he was aware you carried!
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    God bless...

    God bless third rate security...
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    Wal-Mart Ninja?


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    Next time in there, follow him around for a while. I made a LP guy at our Walmart too.

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    On the other hand KT, maybe no one had tagged him before. This might speak more to your observance and your wifes then to his lousy tracking. Granted he should have been better but for 90 plus percent of the people he would probably not been noticed. Here at this forum you all hve mentioned being aware of your surroundings and how important it is. I tend to look at it as a plus for you and you awareness. CHEERS to you and your wife!!!!!!

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    It sounds like he needs to work on his surveillance techniques. Aside from that, I don't think I would have been annoyed with him, he's just trying to do his job. And, like someone else mentioned, 99% of the people that shop there would probably never notice him. Good awareness on your part.

    I had a friend who used to work wal-mart LP and was pretty good at his job. He caught one lady stealing a DVD/VCR by putting it in her cart and then putting her baby's car-seat over it (with the baby in it) and then draping a blanket over it. The interesting thing was that he said she was an attractive young woman...basically your normal, respectable "soccer mom." My point is that appearances don't really mean much. (BTW, as it turned out, the lady was a cop's wife...doh!)
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    I just had to jump in here and tell you what my buddy and I used to do when we were kids. We used to go to a large Sears store. They had a store dick that used to watch any kids like a hawk, so, we would roam all over the store handling small stuff that could be swiped easy, but not taking anything. This guy would go nuts trying to keep up with us and not be noticed. Lots of memories of a mispent youth.

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    I also have to jump in here with a comment or two.

    I have worked loss prevention on a few occasions and tho this guys methods were, shall we say, obvious, I will agree with previous posts that it was your 'awareness factor' that picked up on him.

    On many occasions when working LP I would just pick out somebody at random and watch their movements through the store, (thieves, like killers, don't have a specific "look" to them. So you tend to watch all kinds of decent upstanding folks along the way. If you are an average shopper and purchase your items, no harm, no foul. But you would be suprised at the number of normal looking "soccer moms" that I busted.

    I have the same problem in casino security from time to time. Regardless of what the political hacks may say, 90% of any kind of security or police work is done through 'profiling'. That's just the way it is.

    I don't know what kind of experience this LP guy had but if you ask any of the LEO's here what tips them off to a BG, it's profiling. Sometimes you're wrong, but more often than not you're not. Being able to profile someone takes experience (years of it) but you have to trust your instincts. (Just as you do when you are in condition yellow).

    I wouldn't take it so hard or be so hard on the LP guy. When I notice them in a store and they are being too obvious to me, I'll often approach them identify myself and suggest that they refine their technique. Sometimes they take offense (mostly the rookies) other times they'll say something like, "I thought you picked me out."

    Unless you are up to no good or have a guilty conscience, ignore them and go about your business. Or at least think that somebody else is watching out for you. Because he isn't going to let someone steal your wife's purse while he's watching either.
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    I understand that the guy has a job to do, and he is doing it to his best ability. But, when my wife makes you, you know you have some serious snooping problems. When we were walking to the checkout she said, "Sheesh! That guy wasn't even trying to be sneaky about it!" My wife could have a bomb go off 5 feet from her and she would miss it-so that tells you how obvious this clown was.

    I guess it just got on my nerves because it is just another incident in the long line of "there is a guy with tattoos and muscles, he must be an ex-con" profiling I have been the brunt of. I have been followed in stores before, but since my wife was with me, it made me extra anxious. Truth be told, I have never shoplifted a day in my life. I tried to steal a piece of penny candy when I was a little guy but my step-father caught me and tanned my ass good. That was the end of my life as a criminal.

    Unless you are up to no good or have a guilty conscience, ignore them and go about your business.
    I agree, I guess it just makes me nervy to be followed by anyone. Even when I am driving and a crusier rolls up on me, I am always like "oh sh*t, here we go!" When I got my CCW, the sheriff said I looked like an ex con. When I got my interview at the prison, they said I looked like an ex con. See a pattern here? ;)

    The incident that stands out the most was a few summers back the wife and I were at one of her client's wedding reception. It was at a high class country club. I was minding my own business, sitting with my wife a couple other people we knew, drinking WATER of all things, when a scuffle erupted on the dance floor. Reason #1 I HATE get togethers and booze. I was just going to let it take care of itself when my wife elbowed me and told me to go break that fight up before it ruined the wedding. So, like a moron, I head out to the dance floor, grab up a drunk dude by the scruff, and put him in a chair and restrain him while I attempt to talk to him about how he is ruining his cousin's wedding, etc. Apparently the country club staff has called the police. They came rushing in and who do you think they pegged as the trouble started and potential threat?? Yours trully of course! I am glad I wasnt carrying then. I managed to avoid the cuffs (in all situations to date-knock on wood) but I did see a lot of hands on things that I didnt want used on me. While they were determining if I was a threat or not, one of the dudes involved walked right past them and out the door.

    On the other hand, I probably wouldnt be good as an undercover cop either. I look so much like a thug, they would automatically think I was a cop! LOL!

    Much fun.
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