Irony of gun violence that defeats 'gun control' in Hollywood thriller movies

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    Irony of gun violence that defeats 'gun control' in Hollywood thriller movies

    Minor spoilers for the recent thriller films The International and State of Play.

    Has anyone who went to the movies to see one or two of the films mentioned above noticed the amusing irony of rogue gun violence by bad guys who disregard gun control laws to terrorize the good guys in specific cities where the films are set?

    In The International, there is a sequence of elaborate and deadly gun battle that takes place at Guggenheim museum in NYC. Also, there has been blatant display of guns and shootings towards the ending that takes place in Italy, where I suppose control law on pistols remains strict that emanated from Fascist period.

    In State of Play, where Washington D.C. is the setting, the good guy finds out the identity of the bad guy and runs away to the underground parking lot garage. BG carries a pistol and searches for the good guy to eliminate. Good guy had to hide behind the cars while BG prowls the garage. BG also carried an assault and/or sniper rifle to assassinate a surviving witness.

    NYC and Washington D.C. are notorious for strict gun control laws that disarms honest citizens (especially carry), yet the films, being fictional political thriller, revel in gun violence where the good guys and innocent bystanders might risk being injured or killed by BG's running around shooting with wild abandon.

    What is the impression do we derive from the aforementioned films? Despite the films' centering on BG-Good Guy pursuit to rack up tension for entertainment, we receive the impression, intentional or not by the producers, gun control to ostensibly prevent further gun crimes is a joke in the real world because criminals do not obey the law anyway.

    If the good guy character in State of Play had relaxed his attitude and gotten a license to carry in an alternative scenario with Washington D.C. being "may or shall issue," he would not have cowered behind the cars and instead proceed to take precaution and shoot to injure or kill the bad guy in a pursuit for self-defense because he was "in fear for his life."
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    Absolutely. You also have to love the BGs with some serious full auto weaponry as well. You see it a lot of TV too. 24 comes to mind.

    And what's funny is that in so many of the scenarios in 24, the innocent person probably could've been saved if they were carrying. In addition, Jack probably wouldn't be able to do some stuff (like carjacking when he needs to chase a terrorist but just lost his car) if the guy/woman was carrying.

    I guess that's why NYC, DC, and LA are such popular places for these sort of things :D

    For example, the shooting scene from Heat (probably one of the best shootout scenes). Turn down the volume!

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    Hollywood and the vast majority of the actors/directors are hypocrites. Off camera they scream and cry about guns and gun violence, but they scratch and fight to make a film that is full of gun violence because they know it will sell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    Hollywood and the vast majority of the actors/directors are hypocrites. Off camera they scream and cry about guns and gun violence, but they scratch and fight to make a film that is full of gun violence because they know it will sell.
    I agree...most movies are make believe to make money. Kind of ironic though...with the message being displayed (in movies and X-Box)...reminds me of Jodie Foster movies and her anti-stand. But one has to ask...is the message being displayed good or bad about firearms? I see the "firearms are bad" message with violence and the "firearms are good" message to defeat the bad.

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    You make a very good point...
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    It's all in your perspective.

    Our view: If the good guy had a gun, he could save himself.

    Their view: If guns were banned everywhere, the bad guy couldn't get one.
    eschew obfuscation

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    Good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperKnight View Post
    It's all in your perspective.

    Our view: If the good guy had a gun, he could save himself.

    Their view: If guns were banned everywhere, the bad guy couldn't get one.
    And as an extension, anyone who has a gun in these movies and on TV is a "bad guy" - no "good guy" would ever have a gun! Guns are evil. Well, except in the hands of the police, of course. The police will save us, I'm sure. Which I guess is why all these shows start out with someone dying in the beginning of the episode, with the rest of the episode spent catching or stopping the guy who did it. That isn't going to bring back the innocent guy in the beginning.

    And it gives people a false hope that all crime perpetrators will be caught and effectively prosecuted and jailed. In reality, if this were the case, few people would ever commit crime because they know they'll be caught and jailed for a long time. But we know that's not the real world.

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    When has any movie or TV show portrayed a legal CCW owner?
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