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    Cali unemployed parents to work caring for their own children

    L.A. County officials offer a novel idea to save millions - Los Angeles Times

    Supervisors suggest putting unemployed parents to work caring for their own children as part of proposed changes to CalWorks and other state government aid programs.
    You NEED to read this article, another example how to ruin a state and pludge it faster into the deepest fiscal hell holes! No wander they say they need a "bail out!"
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    Getting paid to do something that they should already be doing in the first place? Oh, and finding all those new "jobs" that are out there too. Sounds like a real liberal plan to me.
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    Money does not create any motivation to work harder, nor would it be an incentive to take better care of one's children.
    The idea that a state has to pay its parents to raise their own children...
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    Quote Originally Posted by retsupt99 View Post
    Money does not create any motivation to work harder, nor would it be an incentive to take better care of one's children.
    The idea that a state has to pay its parents to raise their own children...
    I heard that this same state suggested that government PAY STUDENTS to go to class and to study harder... they claimed it was to "level the playing field" because "rich kids" got allowance money and presents for doing well in school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoGunn View Post
    Getting paid to do something that they should already be doing in the first place? Oh, and finding all those new "jobs" that are out there too. Sounds like a real liberal plan to me.

    Amen to this statement,.. It is strange to see people that take a day off work and sit home but put there kids still in daycare.. Oh ya,. They are the ones that the government is paying for there daycare..

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    Reading the article, the proposal is more of a retraining subsidy, doled out to those having a rough time making ends meet covering the costs of both childcare and training. Doesn't look like it's paying people to stay at home as if they were incurring costs of daycare, doing nothing in return.

    Instead of outright welfare for nothing, this seems to be the defraying some of the costs of the activity of being retrained. Little different than an employer covering the costs of training courses, or part of the books/tuition for a degree.
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    L.A. County officials offer a novel idea to save millions - Los Angeles Times

    Supervisors suggest putting unemployed parents to work caring for their own children as part of proposed changes to CalWorks and other state government aid programs.
    By Molly Hennessy-Fiske
    June 17, 2009
    With steep state budget cuts under debate in Sacramento, Los Angeles County supervisors voted Tuesday to push for changes to CalWorks and other government aid programs they said would save nearly $270 million.

    Included in their suggestions is a novel proposal: Put unemployed parents to work caring for their own children.

    "What we're saying is do not cut Welfare to Work outright: Target the cuts to the people who are the most expensive," said Miguel Santana, a deputy to the county's chief executive.

    Parents now receiving assistance must attend job training and search for work. While they fulfill those requirements, they are eligible for subsidized child care, which typically costs the state about $500 a month per child in L.A. County.

    The parents of children under age 1 may stay home and still receive benefits. Now, county officials propose expanding that to parents who have one child under age 2 or two children under age 6. Monthly job training and child-care costs for such parents often exceed their welfare check, Santana said.


    In Los Angeles County, 8,000 households with more than one child under age 6 receive CalWorks-subsidized child care, according to the county's department of social services. If adopted, county officials estimate the proposal -- intended to counter Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's threat to eliminate CalWorks -- could save the state $140 million this fiscal year.

    Some parents who would be affected by the change had mixed feelings.

    After Antoinette Levenson's husband was laid off by a boat dealership two years ago, the mother of two applied for cash assistance and joined the state's Welfare to Work program.

    Now Levenson, 27, is about six months from earning her associate degree in culinary arts and has a job lined up at Ralphs. She receives about $750 a month in assistance. The state also pays about $1,000 a month for her sons, Jaden, 4, and Gavyn, 2, to attend Canyon Vista Children's Learning Center in Chatsworth while she finishes school.

    "If I had it my way, I'd stay home all day with my kids," Levenson said as she dropped the boys off Tuesday. "Then again, I love day care. My kids have learned so much."

    Although Levenson said she is not sure she could replace her eldest son's preschool teachers, she is willing to try.

    "There's times I just drive by and watch the kids," she said. "You'll never be able to get the kids' little years back."

    But Priscilla Murillo of Canoga Park, a single mother with three children under age 5, said she wants to finish school and find a job as soon as possible. With her youngest child just a month old, Murillo, 27, could stay home now and still receive benefits. But she said the Welfare to Work program motivated her to continue pursuing her associate degree.

    Murillo worries that if the state pays fellow single mothers to stay home, they will become dependent on welfare.

    "I think it's good to push people," she said. "It helps them and it helps the economy."

    Child-care providers also said they are concerned about looming cuts.

    Michael Olenick, who heads the nonprofit Child Care Resource Center in Chatsworth, said 12,000 child-care staff members and parents in northern L.A. County alone rely on CalWorks.

    "For many of them, it's the only source of revenue that they have," Olenick said of the CalWorks subsidies. "If they lose the revenue, then they end up on cash aid as well."

    On Tuesday, a legislative budget committee in Sacramento rejected the governor's plan to eliminate CalWorks, proposing instead to cut it by $270 million. Those cuts include $175 million in reductions to child-care and employment services.

    That would allow the county to move forward with its proposal, said Philip K. Browning, director of the county Department of Public Social Services.

    "But it's still not a done deal -- the governor hasn't signed off on it yet," Browning said.

    A spokeswoman for the governor said he will continue to push for the elimination of CalWorks but remains open to other options as he tries to close the $24.3-billion budget shortfall.

    County supervisors -- who plan to pursue a waiver to get federal welfare funds even if CalWorks is eliminated -- also proposed Tuesday that the state cap and overhaul general relief for single people, as well as reduce payments to adoptive parents, disabled foster children and some child-care providers.

    The proposal to allow more parents to stay home troubled some of the county supervisors, including Supervisor Mike Antonovich, who voted against exempting parents of children under age 2 from Welfare to Work.

    "They should be seeking employment. In the long term it benefits everyone in the county," Antonovich said.

    Supervisor Gloria Molina grudgingly voted yes.

    "It doesn't fit with the spirit of Welfare to Work, but we're in a different situation," Molina said. "What we're doing is trying to say to them don't eliminate Welfare to Work -- here are some savings."

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    Just a few of the millions of jobs "saved or created"....
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    You all have to understand that Villagarosa (L.A. Mayor) got elected on the basis of a "chicken in every pot at the public expense" type of campaign. And the people who voted for him are the type to believe in that sort of thing.

    The citizens of Los Angeles are MORONS for the most part. Especially in the higher crime areas. Take the recent Lakers win earlier this week. After the game there was an almost riot by "fans" out celebrating. These idiots set fires and looted a few stores and caused all kinds of public havoc. All in the name of "celebrating the Lakers' win."

    These are the same people who voted for the mayor. Villaragosa is just trying to keep his cushy job and/or appear to be "pro-poor" for his expected run for governor in 2010. What he doesn't get is that THERE ISN'T ANY MONEY for public programs like this. Especially since the state is going to have to eliminate AFDC (aid for families with dependant children or "welfare") as well as other "public assistance" programs.

    But, you can't tell the lazy anything that will get them motivated. Especially when you pay them to BE lazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointnClick View Post
    Just a few of the millions of jobs "saved or created"....
    "Run for your life from the man who tells you that money is evil. That sentence is the leper's bell of an approaching looter. So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another-their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."

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