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    California to Release 27,000 Prisoners

    In an effort to be more like NJ, the California legislature is voting today to release 27,000 prisoners as a budget saving move.

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    Calif. budget deal would release 27,000 inmates

    The Los Angeles Times is reporting that the California budget deal announced last night calls for cutting the prison population by 27,000 inmates.

    The move, which is projected to save $1.2 billion during the current fiscal year, would let some inmates finish their sentences at home, reduce parole supervision for the least serious offenders and create incentives for inmates to complete rehabilitation programs. The paper explains:

    The plan would grant authority to state corrections officials to allow any inmate with 12 months or less left to serve to complete his or her sentence on home detention, although state officials would not be required to do so. Prison officials could also put any inmate who is over 60 or medically incapacitated on home detention instead of in a prison cell.

    The state would use electronic monitoring for inmates serving time at home, and officials estimate that about 6,300 could do time this way.

    In addition, inmates who achieve milestones in rehabilitative programs, substance abuse treatment, vocational training or education could receive up to six weeks off their prison terms, although the credit could be forfeited in cases of subsequent bad behavior.
    The full Legislature is scheduled to vote on the budget deal Thursday.

    Meanwhile, local governments are lining up against the deal, which would take billions from them. The Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors has voted to sue state lawmakers if they seize local redevelopment and highway taxes to help cover the state's $26.3 billion budget deficit. Other local governments are expected to follow suit.

    The budget deal also makes deep cuts to education, health and welfare services. Republicans refused to support any tax increases, so Democrats abandoned proposals to raise cigarette taxes $1.50 a pack, increase the vehicle license fee $15 a year or boost taxes on oil extraction. The plan allows offshore oil drilling near Santa Barbara.

    In another sign of California's financial troubles, the two biggest state pension funds are reporting $100 billion in losses about one quarter of their portfolio values.
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    Good heavens! And to think Barbara Boxer carried on yesterday during the Thune Amendment debate as if CCW holders, especially from my state, are the bane of their existence and the ultimate threat to CA public safety. Thank goodness I live in Georgia were we have common sense servants that don't release prisoners early from prison with one hand while constricting the ability to own a gun to the point of non-existence with the other.

    This is the second state I've heard that is doing this (the first was MI). How much does anyone want to bet that NYS will soon follow suit, especially if NJ has jumped on the band wagon already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moga View Post
    Good heavens! And to think Barbara Boxer carried on yesterday during the Thune Amendment debate as if CCW holders, especially from my state, are the bane of their existence and the ultimate threat to CA public safety. Thank goodness I live in Georgia were we have common sense servants that don't release prisoners early from prison with one hand while constricting the ability to own a gun to the point of non-existence with the other.

    This is the second state I've heard that is doing this (the first was MI). How much does anyone want to bet that NYS will soon follow suit, especially if NJ has jumped on the band wagon already?
    You do not think all 27k of them will stay put in California do you? Surely some will migrate to slime up other states.

    This will have an affect reaching out farther than their state.
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    Oh oh...sounds like gun owners in CA need to buy and load some extra mags.
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    I hope and pray they all stay in California. It seems like lately, we in SC have had way too many visits from former NC inmates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rottkeeper View Post
    You do not think all 27k of them will stay put in California do you? Surely some will migrate to slime up other states.

    This will have an affect reaching out farther than their state.
    Actually, I was really hoping that most of them would go visit out-of-state relatives.

    The worst part is that this won't really save CA any money, b/c we'll just sign them all up for other public benefits as soon as they get released.

    Just to clarify, I was just making a general dig on NJ. I am not aware that they have recently released prisoners.
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    Just think what crime will be like in CA when they let all them bad guys out. Of Course they will blame it on something other then the 27,000 criminals the state let go to save money.

    What is really sad about this is that the state of CA has just admitted that the state government is more important then the people.

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    Yeah this sounds like a brilliant idea.

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    Zipping up my flak jacket for this one:

    They arn't complete maroons in california. I hope...

    I'll bet these 27,000 people are people who probably didn't belong in jail the first place. I don't advocate drug use (I don't even drink), but I don't think people who use drugs belong in jail (on the premise that the government shouldn't be able to regulate what people put into their body), and I recon that most of these 27,000 were drug "offenders".
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilenceDoGood View Post
    Zipping up my flak jacket for this one:

    They arn't complete maroons in california. I hope...

    I'll bet these 27,000 people are people who probably didn't belong in jail the first place. I don't advocate drug use (I don't even drink), but I don't think people who use drugs belong in jail (on the premise that the government shouldn't be able to regulate what people put into their body), and I recon that most of these 27,000 were drug "offenders".
    That's all well and good, but the things people put in THIER bodies make them do things to OTHER PEOPLE'S bodies, commit property crimes to finance their addiction, and lead to a life that is at best a waste of space. What's worse is that these life-controlling addictions get taught to the kids and grandkids. So an individual's choice to put something in his/her body turns into a journey down a road with zero upside and a significant downside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PastorPack View Post
    Just to clarify, I was just making a general dig on NJ. I am not aware that they have recently released prisoners.
    Gotcha.

    The idea that most but not all of them will stay in CA is a good point. Then again, how much $$$ will be at their avail to relocate? How many people want a felon living under their roof as a boarder/free loader? And if they leave the state of CA, they won't even have public assistance on which to rely. Actually, they may not have it in CA either as the Golden State can't pay their bills, which is why we're discussing this in the first place.

    Either way, I'm glad its not SC or AL or TN or any place near me. We're just getting our problems under control from the crime that NOLA fugees brought with them to ATL. The last thing we need is a fresh release of graduates from criminal University out on the streets to ply their trade with their newly acquired skill sets.
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    I don't believe we have inmates in the CA prison system that are there for using drugs. SELLING drugs, but general use....nah.

    Do we have them for probation violations for using drugs while on probation? Probably, but that's icing on their cake.

    What concerns me is we have alot of burglars who will not be reading the bible on release. Burglars steal things and will continue to do so.

    Muggers will do what they know best.

    And we'll still be fighting in the courts for the ability of decent citizens to carry a gun. Go figure.

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    How they plan on saving any money when most of them will be rearrested and cost the taxpayers more money going thru the court system to be reincarcerated
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    I wonder how many of the 27,000 are illegal aliens?

    And more importantly, will the prison system be notifying ICE to come pick them up for deportation?

    Or are they just going to turn them loose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PastorPack View Post
    That's all well and good, but the things people put in THIER bodies make them do things to OTHER PEOPLE'S bodies, commit property crimes to finance their addiction, and lead to a life that is at best a waste of space. What's worse is that these life-controlling addictions get taught to the kids and grandkids. So an individual's choice to put something in his/her body turns into a journey down a road with zero upside and a significant downside.
    I agree, and that's why I think we also need real education about drug facts. DARE is a good start, but schools need to continue drug education. Sorry for getting a little off topic, but if someone wants drugs they are going to get them, the only thing we can do is offer them facts so they can make educated choices. If people choose to destroy their lives with drugs that just makes life easier for me (less competition).

    On that note, california is a... whack state... for lack of a better phrase. Hopefully they released people that won't start mayhem.
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