Why does she get to vote?

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    SilenceDoGood sez...

    My point is, I think there should be legit civics classes and test to be taken and passed before one can vote.

    Don't you worry, brother... I'm certain that program is already in the works, thanks to the Stimulus Package... there's certainly a few billion in there for it. ACORN will find some community-minded people with lots of time on their hands to organize and conduct those classes in your neighborhood right away...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Paco View Post
    I'm having a hard time thinking that is real. I couldn't see her lips enough to read them, but it appeared to me to not match the words I heard.
    Best I can tell, its real. I did a small bit of research. California!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodc13 View Post
    Yeah, why bother with this silly Constitution thing? It's just ridiculous. And people with more propterty should get more votes! And equal protection under the law? That's a crock! You should be entitled to only the protection you can afford. And if you don't pay property taxes, then you have no right to keep and bear arms! People who don't have property don't have anything to defend anyway.

    Very sensible, Tombstone55! Let's keep those renters from voting and arming themselves and exercising free speech and freedom of religion and . . . .
    Obviously i would not take it that far. BTW our founding fathers agreed with the property tax idea. They wanted only people who owned property to vote. Look it up. Sorry if i stepped on your toes with the property tax statement. I do see you point though.

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    I think voting needs to change, each candidate should fill out a 50 question questionairre, your ballot has the same 50 questions. You answer the questions how you see each topic ranks in importance to you and how you feel about them. The computers match the ballots to the candidates answers, and cast the vote for the best match.

    This causes 2 things:

    NO cult of personality voting.
    You have to know something about what you want.
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    It was only a generation or so ago that many if not most of our parents, grandparents or great grandparents had to take a test to be a citizen and thus EARN the right to vote.

    The new Voter Registration Application should contain a small test and the future voter should get a passing grade.

    Sample questions from the INS test that is given today:

    1. What are the colors of our flag?
    2. How many stars are there in our flag?
    3. What color are the stars on our flag?
    4. What do the stars on the flag mean?
    5. How many stripes are there in the flag?
    6. What color are the stripes?
    7. What do the stripes on the flag mean?
    8. How many states are there in the Union?
    9. What is the 4th of July?
    10. What is the date of Independence Day?
    11. Independence from whom?
    12. What country did we fight during the Revolutionary War?
    13. Who was the first President of the United States?
    14. Who is the President of the United States today?
    15. Who is the vice-president of the United States today?
    16. Who elects the President of the United States?
    17. Who becomes President of the United States if the President should die?
    18. For how long do we elect the President?
    19. What is the Constitution?
    20. Can the Constitution be changed?
    21. What do we call a change to the Constitution?
    22. How many changes or amendments are there to the Constitution?
    23. How many branches are there in our government?
    24. What are the three branches of our government?
    25. What is the legislative branch of our government?
    26. Who makes the laws in the United States?
    27. What is the Congress?
    28. What are the duties of Congress?
    29. Who elects the Congress?
    30. How many senators are there in Congress?
    31. Can you name the two senators from your state?
    32. For how long do we elect each senator?
    33. How many representatives are there in Congress?
    34. For how long do we elect the representatives?
    35. What is the executive branch of our government?
    36. What is the judiciary branch of our government?
    37. What are the duties of the Supreme Court?
    38. What is the supreme court law of the United States?
    39. What is the Bill of Rights?
    40. What is the capital of your state?
    41. Who is the current governor of your state?
    42. Who becomes President of the United States if the President and the vice-president should die?
    43. Who is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court?
    44. Can you name thirteen original states?
    45. Who said, "Give me liberty or give me death."?
    46. Which countries were our enemies during World War II?
    47. What are the 49th and 50th states of the Union?
    48. How many terms can the President serve?
    49. Who was Martin Luther King, Jr.?
    50. Who is the head of your local government?
    51. According to the Constitution, a person must meet certain requirements in order to be eligible to become President. Name one of these requirements.
    52. Why are there 100 Senators in the Senate?
    53. Who selects the Supreme Court justice?
    54. How many Supreme Court justice are there?
    55. Why did the Pilgrims come to America?
    56. What is the head executive of a state government called?
    57. What is the head executive of a city government called?
    58. What holiday was celebrated for the first time by the Americans colonists?
    59. Who was the main writer of the Declaration of Independence?
    60. When was the Declaration of Independence adopted?
    61. What is the basic belief of the Declaration of Independence?
    62. What is the national anthem of the United States?
    63. Who wrote the Star-Spangled Banner?
    64. Where does freedom of speech come from?
    65. What is a minimum voting age in the United States?
    66. Who signs bills into law?
    67. What is the highest court in the United States?
    68. Who was the President during the Civil War?
    69. What did the Emancipation Declaration do?
    70. What special group advises the President?
    71. Which President is called the "Father of our country"?
    72. What Immigration and Naturalization Service form is used to apply to become a naturalized citizen?
    73. Who helped the Pilgrims in America?
    74. What is the name of the ship that brought the Pilgrims to America?
    75. What are the 13 original states of the U.S. called?
    76. Name 3 rights of freedom guaranteed by the Bill of Rights.
    77. Who has the power to declare the war?
    78. What kind of government does the United States have?
    79. Which President freed the slaves?
    80. In what year was the Constitution written?
    81. What are the first 10 amendments to the Constitution called?
    82. Name one purpose of the United Nations?
    83. Where does Congress meet?
    84. Whose rights are guaranteed by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?
    85. What is the introduction to the Constitution called?
    86. Name one benefit of being citizen of the United States.
    87. What is the most important right granted to U.S. citizens?
    88. What is the United States Capitol?
    89. What is the White House?
    90. Where is the White House located?
    91. What is the name of the President's official home?
    92. Name the right guaranteed by the first amendment.
    93. Who is the Commander in Chief of the U.S. military?
    94. Which President was the first Commander in Chief of the U.S. military?
    95. In what month do we vote for the President?
    96. In what month is the new President inaugurated?
    97. How many times may a Senator be re-elected?
    98. How many times may a Congressman be re-elected?
    99. What are the 2 major political parties in the U.S. today?
    100. How many states are there in the United States today?

    OH YEAH... The test should be given and answered in ENGLISH like it was when my grandparents took it.

    bosco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Free American View Post
    I think voting needs to change, each candidate should fill out a 50 question questionairre, your ballot has the same 50 questions. You answer the questions how you see each topic ranks in importance to you and how you feel about them. The computers match the ballots to the candidates answers, and cast the vote for the best match.

    This causes 2 things:

    NO cult of personality voting.
    You have to know something about what you want.
    "How do you know if a politician is lying? His mouth is moving."

    Sara Brady is for 2A, she just wants resonable restrictions.

    BHO and Hillary are for 2A for Hunting and Sport Shooting.

    Bloomberg is for 2A since it protects the National Guards Guns.

    The question and answer type of vote falls apart if the politicians lie on the test. I just want the politicians to learn to READ THE (Censored) BILLS.
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    The electoral college was originally put in place to prevent a majority of dimwits from voting in a President who was not qualified or a danger to the country.

    In my opinion it obviously failed.

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    Bosco, are those really questions from the INS test? If so why are questions about Martin Luther King Jr. and the United Nations on the test?? Might as well ask who is the Prime Minister of England or Russia.

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    Some of those questions are funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by boscobeans View Post
    Sample questions from the INS test that is given today:

    *snip*

    87. What is the most important right granted to U.S. citizens?
    Good question, right? Not something with a simple answer.

    And of course as we know, rights are not something that is 'granted', instead they are inherent...or at least that was the belief of the founders of this country. It is an important distinction that is lost today.
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    I didn't make up the questions so I can't answer as to the why's for each one.

    They are from a US.gov website dealing with INS naturalization test questions.

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    I sent out an email to half my friends today with Joe Biden as an attachment. I asked, "Do you know who this man is?" 27 out of 76 responded with "no". That's 35.5% and some haven't answered yet...all college educated, some even graduated already (1 even has her masters!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by packinnova View Post
    I've had the same thought before, but then you have to think about it this way. Who decides what's on the test and who passes and fails? If a test is all that determines whether or not you are allowed a vote to change the stakes in your game of life, who is in control of the test? Is it the same folks you are or are not voting for?
    Quote Originally Posted by SilenceDoGood View Post
    It should be a basic and unbiased civics test, like the kind you get in high school.

    Who is the commander in chief?

    What are the three branches to government?

    Several options exist that assure we wouldn't need to depend on foreign oil... name two.

    The advantages of using foreign oil are... name one.


    Would probably never happen.
    You've already proven part of my point. What happened to that "unbiased" part?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombstone55 View Post
    If you pay property taxes you can vote. If you do not pay property taxes you cannot vote.
    Yes that's a brilliant idea...Let some thieving B@$+@R9 steal from you and then you can vote...
    "My God David, We're a Civilized society."

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    Quote Originally Posted by GWRedDragon View Post
    Define 'own'. Apparently there are millions of people out there who don't have a penny to their name working minimum wage jobs 20 hours a week yet financed $600,000 homes with no money down. And, of course, now the government is working to make sure they stay there.

    Nope, I don't see how requiring property ownership to vote would help. The corrupt politicians would just have the government pay so their supporters could 'own' property.
    I'd also like to point out that no one in this country owns any real property anymore unless it's illegally. Try not paying your "property taxes" and see how long your property remains yours. Betcha it ends up on the auction block

    Requiring property ownership might be a good idea...if we had such a thing anymore. If it were no longer an issue and property ownership was the requirement, it would more or less ensure that folks are making more careful consideration of their options when they have something of their own on the line. But again...we don't own anything anymore.
    "My God David, We're a Civilized society."

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