Vicks return to football +/-
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View Poll Results: Do you think Michael Vick should be allowed to return to professional football?
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August 20th, 2009 12:46 AM
The NFL has disgraced itself..i have no interest in football because of this!!
August 20th, 2009 02:28 AM
The media always talks about the
athletes letting the kids down.
I dont think kids that look up to Vick
as a role model are going to say
or think to themselves: Vick made dogs fight and
tortured them so I am too. More parents
need to be better role models to their kids in their
own homes anyway instead of worrying about the
athletes on tv letting their kids down.
I have been a pet owner my whole life and
was outraged when the news came out about
what Vick did to those dogs but I am sure the
past several years has been a living nightmare
for him. People do deserve second chances in life
if truly humble and sorry for their actions. Is Vick sorry
for his actions? I dont know but I am not God either.
I say let the man go on with his life.
August 20th, 2009 03:40 AM
Vick who? If not for his ability to toss a ball, he's just another schmo.
He did a crime, for which he did some time. Apparently, he's at least contrite, if not downright concerned over what he did. Great. If the time for the crime wasn't enough, then the time should have been boosted. But, when done ... it's done.
If someone wants to hire him, fine. Barring him from an entire field of endeavor because it happens to suit some to permanently punish him seems petty and mean, to me. It's one thing when the schmuck is in public service (or law service, or accounting [CPA] service), since we cannot have inveterate liars and cheats in a position of public trust. But this particular person is just another average person with a job in a career he's attempting to resurrect from ashes because of his own deeds. To the extent I care at all about this person's situation, I'm of the opinion the market should determine whether he's got any value ... just as with anyone else.
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August 20th, 2009 07:40 AM
I voted no plain and simple. A lot of other people I know would do the same. However, what bugs me about the whole deal is that some players get extra special treatment, while others just get slapped on the wrist and it's "ok".
Example : Pete Rose. Banned from baseball and the Hall of Fame for life. Why? Gambling. Ohhhhhhhhhh......that's really bad, we need to ban him for it. Vick kills dogs, goes to jail for a few months and is graciously allowed to return to his sport. What's wrong with this picture?
I say ban the SOB from all sporting activities for life, just like they have done to Rose. The NFL will be better off if they would have the cojones to do so.
Ok, I'm done ranting now. We can go back to our regularly scheduled posts!
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August 20th, 2009 08:08 AM
It’s because Pete Rose messed with the fabric of the game. His actions were a crime against the sport (possibly affecting the outcome of the game for gambling purposes), so the sport punished him. Vick’s crimes had nothing to do with the sport (other than hurting the NFL’s reputation).
Originally Posted by JoJoGunn
I’m in no way saying that Rose’s crimes were worse than Vick’s. But it comes down to who is responsible for punishment. In Rose’s case, he broke major league rules, while at best only violating minor criminal laws. Hence, his punishment in the game was far worse than any criminal punishment.
Vick’s case was the opposite. He violated major criminal laws, while his only crime to the game was hurting the NFL’s reputation. Hence, his punishment comes more from the justice system than the league.
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August 20th, 2009 08:29 AM
I hate to tell you, but the NFL disgraced itself long before the Vick issue. If not for their status as professional athletes, many players would be serving long prison sentences for rape, murder, drugs, etc. I'm not defending what Vick did, I love dogs, but if not for the huge amount of media coverage he would be no different then the other criminals that play in the NFL.
Originally Posted by crue2009
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August 20th, 2009 10:01 AM
I have mixed feelings, but I voted yes. I think that anyone who commits a crime should be banned. However, there are quite a few NFL players as well as those in other sports as well as some college players who have committed felonies and are still allowed to play. As long as these others are allowed to play, Vick should be allowed also. Personally, I feel that none of them should be playing.
August 20th, 2009 10:17 AM
I wouldn't care if they had to strip all the teams down to new people playing. If you do something illegal, Immoral or anything unbecoming you should be banned.
Originally Posted by celticredneck
These people get paid millions to play a game! And should be held accountable for actions and behavior on and off the fields.
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August 20th, 2009 03:52 PM
My thoughts exactly. Since there are other felons in the league, I don't see how they can keep Vick out. He did his time. Whether or not he did enough time is the justice systems fault. I would have a better opinion of the league if the kept out all of the felons. I hope Vick has learned his lesson and has changed. He can be a much more valuable role model for having paid his price and turning his life around than he could have before.
Originally Posted by celticredneck
August 20th, 2009 05:33 PM
I don't think they qualify, but the problem is because of the warped sense of values we have devolved to these people, good and bad, are by definition role models in that a good many of the youth look up to and try to emulate them. Oh and it's a cottage industry that take millions, cause muggings etc..Jersey's, shoes, hats, "bling", etc...
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