September 1st, 2009 12:49 PM
proof inbreeding is not a good thing..............
September 1st, 2009 03:53 PM
I have a daughter and son-in-law who used to live in a VERY rural part of Louisiana. Things were OK there until the neighbor's son came home after serving his sentence for murdering his best friend (he only stabbed him 17 times). The son came home from prison and brought a few friends--one of the friends showed up on our daughter/son-in-law's doorstep, cradling a .270 and said that he was going to go hunting (read-poaching, was not deer season) in their back pasture and if she raised a fuss, he'd shoot her horses. Son-in-law was drivng over-the-road and was gone about 26 days a month, so our daughter called the Sherriffs office. The deputy came out and scolded our daughter...........
It all worked out ok--it provided a good opportunity to move them out of there and up here to Montana. But, back in some of those really backwards places, the LEOs can be part of the problem rather than a solution.
(Just because a place is rural, doesn't mean it HAS to be backwards--some places just have a wierd, oppressive "feel" to them, where evil seems to often be flaunted and even supported by the authorities who are supposed to be there to uphold the law and righteousness).
September 2nd, 2009 01:50 PM
wow....hatfields/McCoys?..........Jerry Springer?.........geez the Barney rule should have been instituted
what a moron
I know one place I'll never drive within a 100 miles of
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September 3rd, 2009 03:44 AM
Yeah, and usually there are a few nuts in the box!
Originally Posted by Bark'n
September 3rd, 2009 03:48 AM
Hey, this just proves that what the antis say is true, It's too dangerous for the public to have handguns, only the police should have them! Er, ah.WHAT??, the police officer shot someone illegally? Naw, couldn't possibly happen. But never mind, whatever they say is correct, regardless of the facts.
September 3rd, 2009 07:44 AM
Originally Posted by Squawker
And there is no reason to carry in a secure location, where guns are prohibited.
I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.
I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
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September 6th, 2009 01:43 PM
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Thursday, September 3, 2009
It was just too much, having to return to court twice on the same day to contest yet another traffic ticket, and Fire Chief Don Payne didn't hesitate to tell the judge what he thought of the police and their speed traps. The response from cops? They shot him. Right there in court.
Chief Payne ended up in the hospital, but his shooting last week brought to a boil simmering tensions between residents of this tiny former cotton city and their police force. Drivers quickly learn to slow to a crawl along the gravel roads and the two-lane highway that run through Jericho, but they say sometimes that isn't enough to fend off the city ticketing machine.
"You can't even get them to answer a call because normally they're writing tickets," said Thomas Martin, chief investigator for the Crittenden County Sheriff's Department. "They're not providing a service to the citizens."
Now the police chief has disbanded his force "until things calm down," a judge has voided all outstanding police-issued citations and sheriff's deputies are asking where all the money from the tickets went. With 174 residents, the city can keep seven police officers on its rolls but missed payments on police and fire department vehicles and saw its last business close its doors a few weeks ago.
"You can't even buy a loaf of bread, but we've got seven police officers," said former resident Larry Harris, who left town because he said the police harassment became unbearable.
Sheriff's deputies patrolled Jericho until the 1990s, when the city received grant money to start its own police force, Martin said.
Police often camped out in the department's two cruisers along the highway that runs through town, waiting for drivers who failed to slow down when they reached the 45 mph zone ringing Jericho. Residents say the ticketing got out of hand.
"When I first moved out here, they wrote me a ticket for going 58 mph in my driveway," 75-year-old retiree Albert Beebe said.
The frequent ticketing apparently led to the vandalization of the cruisers, and the department took to parking the cars overnight at the sheriff's department eight miles away.
It was anger over traffic tickets that brought Payne to city hall last week, said his lawyer, Randy Fishman. After Payne failed to get a traffic ticket dismissed on Aug. 27, police gave Payne or his son another ticket that day. Payne, 39, returned to court to vent his anger to Judge Tonya Alexander, Fishman said.
It's unclear exactly what happened next, but Martin said an argument between Chief Payne and the seven police officers who attended the hearing apparently escalated to a scuffle, ending when an officer shot Payne from behind.
Doctors in Memphis, Tenn., removed a .40-caliber bullet from Payne's hip bone, Martin said. Another officer suffered a grazing wound to his finger from the bullet.
Martin declined to name the officer who shot Payne. It's unclear if the officer has been disciplined.
Prosecutor Lindsey Fairley said Thursday that he didn't plan to file any felony charges against the officer or Payne. Fairley, reached at his home, said Payne could face a misdemeanor charge stemming from the scuffle, but that would be up to the city's judge. He said he didn't remember the name of the officer who fired the shot.
Chief Payne remains in good condition at the Regional Medical Center at Memphis. He referred questions to his lawyer.
"I know that he was unarmed and I know he was shot," Fishman said. "None of that sounds too good for the city to me."
After the shooting, Martin said police chief Willie Frazier told the sheriff's department he was disbanding the police force "until things calm down." The sheriff's department has been patrolling the town in the meantime.
A call to a city hall number listed as Frazier's went to a fax machine. Frazier did not respond to a written request for comment sent to his office.
Alexander, the judge, has voided all the tickets written by the department both inside the city and others written outside of its jurisdiction — citations that the department apparently had no power to write. Alexander, who works as a lawyer in West Memphis, resigned as Jericho's judge in the aftermath of the shooting, Fairley said. She did not return calls for comment.
Meanwhile, sheriff's deputies want to know where the money from the traffic fines went. Martin said that it appeared the $150 tickets weren't enough to protect the city's finances. Sheriff's deputies once had to repossess one of the town's police cruisers for failure to pay on a lease, and the state Forestry Commission recently repossessed one of the city's fire trucks because of nonpayment.
City hall has been shuttered since the shooting, and any records of how the money was spent are apparently locked inside. No one answered when a reporter knocked on the door on Tuesday.
Mayor Helen Adams declined to speak about the shooting when approached outside her home, saying she had just returned from a doctor's appointment and couldn't talk.
"We'll get with you after all this comes through," Adams said Tuesday before shutting the door.
A white Ford Crown Victoria sat in her driveway with "public property" license plates. A sales brochure advertising police equipment sat in the back seat of the car.
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September 7th, 2009 01:10 AM
Yep, that is what we have been hearing for over a year here. We live across the river in Tennessee, and this was a story that we have all hear for a while now. I didn't figure that one of the cops there would do this but you never know.
7 officers for a town of about 150 people. That by itself seems fishy to me.
September 7th, 2009 05:34 AM
Did the Fire Chief park in a red zone or what? Crazy cop gone bad.
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September 7th, 2009 11:07 AM
I really don't know how to respond to this. I don't care how good your aim is, using a firearm is utilization of deadly force. Almost any injury sustained from a bullet has the potential to be fatal, but the guy who was shot is the one who is likely to be charged!?
Prosecutor Lindsey Fairley said Thursday that he didn't plan to file any felony charges against the officer or Payne. Fairley, reached at his home, said Payne could face a misdemeanor charge stemming from the scuffle....
Count me as another person who you can count on not to drive within 100 miles of that city. Reminds me of Ferndale, California. I swear I hear dueling banjos when I drive past the turnoff that leads out there...
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September 7th, 2009 11:20 AM
When I read the article, I got the distinct impression that the prosecutor and possibly the judge are as corrupt as this police department seems to be. It sure sounds like a kangaroo court system to me.
Originally Posted by socal2310
64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
September 7th, 2009 12:15 PM
From another article:
Originally Posted by morintp
Since she had apparently enforced the fines prior to this occasion, it does make you wonder if she was working on commission.
Alexander, who works as a lawyer in West Memphis, resigned as Jericho's judge in the aftermath of the shooting, Fairley said. She did not return calls for comment.
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September 7th, 2009 12:42 PM
No charges being pressed? Someone needs to call the FBI and get this mess sorted out. Yikes!
September 7th, 2009 01:21 PM
Agree, needs much more investigation
This one needs a lot more investigation by some outside LEs. If not FBI, from the Attorney General's office/ state police. It does sound as if everyone in the local government was in on the deal, judge included, prosecutor included. Maybe not, but it is all too weird. Tickets issued for 75 mph to a guy who was in his driveway? If true, we are talking about organized criminal activity on the part of the 7 officers, the mayor, the judge (maybe), the DA (maybe), and maybe even the county officials who looked the other way.
Originally Posted by nutz4utwo
If the basics of the story are true, there is much to be looked.
What really gets me is the relative proximity of this place to where Duisberg (see his threads from last year) had his problem with LE. It truly makes it look like there is a big systemic problem in that area.
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