this guy should not have a gun, almost kills baby trying to kill robber

this guy should not have a gun, almost kills baby trying to kill robber

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    this guy should not have a gun, almost kills baby trying to kill robber

    this guy should not have a gun, almost kills baby trying to kill robber
    even under the pressure of the robber being there, you need to take precations before shooting!

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    We had this posted before and IRRC the angle to the baby is deceptive on the video. He actually had a good angle away from the baby. The clerk used good camoflauge by stepping behind the cashier to disguise his draw. He used a Glock 27. The robber was DOA.
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    Without being there it is hard to judge someone elses actions. Angles and BG demeneor make a big diffrence in what is the best action.
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    aw good times, die bad guys die
    i guess i shouldn't believe everything the media says, i try really hard not to, thanks for the comment

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    Ok, I've not seen this one before.

    When the robber comes in, why does the lady just casually glance at him and just move a few inches to the side?

    I also find it interesting that he left the potential cover of the counter to exchange further rounds with the robber? Perhaps this was to cover for the movement of the mother and the baby.

    Yeah, it's definitely difficult to tell from a video... but it's also fairly easy to get convicted by a video.
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    check for other threads about this. One of them has a link to another gun board in which the shooter has a few posts about the incident.
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    Our general thinking was camera angle made things look way worse.

    The other factor too would have been the guy's very short time re decision making. I have not as yet read post material from the shooter. Anyone recall a suitable link?
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    Camera angle(s) can be very deceptive indeed. If the infant was even near the peripheral of the POA at discharge, it would've sustained powder/residue burns from the blast.
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    iirc http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=274058 has postings from the shooter himself p95

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    I thought the vid was pretty clear IMHO. It looked to me like he had more than enough position away from the mom and daughter and made a good shoot. When someone sees a gun come into play, it's typically not there first reaction to run towards it.
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