This is a discussion on Can anyone identify these snakes? within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by Rcher Grab those snakes with gloves if you have to ... Before determining if they're poisonous, when the photo looks far more ...
I don't know. but they sure are beautiful!
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Poisonous... Nonpoisonous... Black Rattler... King Snake... These suckers have been called everything but a drain snake
The DNR should be able to identify them and then we can all get a good laugh over the whole thing!
They look like 'dead' snakes to me...
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How many of them would it take to make a nice pair of boots?
Most snakes will excrete a substance that smells and tastes bad to deter predators when you pick them up. The name is a local thing. Around here they're called, among others, "chicken snake". They are juvenile. I didn't think that was an issue. If you want to know which are male and which are female turn them upside down. With any luck I "gotcha" there. After you turn them upside down look for the anterior orifice. It's the same place the stinky white stuff comes from. The males will taper at the same rate from belly to tail. The females will exhibit a slightly greater taper at the region of the anus. The body is tapered more there due to the birth function in the female. Many snakes will exhibit defensive behaviour that mimics the poisionous species. They will vibrate their tails side to side in leaves/dry grass to make you think they're someone they're not. More proof it's a non poisionous species. The most docile snake I've ever encountered is the Black Rat or Mountain Black. They almost never bite and after a couple of weeks of correct handling will lie in your lap while you watch TV. I've had snakes loose in the house. If you know what you're doing it's really no different than having a cat. The Mountain black, like most snakes comes in some color variation. The basic color is, per the description, is black. The pattern is normally only seen on the outside of a curve when the body is coiled but may also be seen (usually faintly) without the bend. As I said I've done this for many, many years. One of the things I've always found to be amazing is that the Copperhead isn't an aggressive snake. I've handled them and moved them across the road with sticks (I'm aware of the heat sensor thing) and have had very few agressive responses. The Rattler on the other hand will give fair warning and then bite. The Rattler most feared in the California oil field was the one that had been around the pumps and had its rattled gummed up in crude. They tried to warn but their rattles didn't rattle. The few times I've dealt with the Cottonmouth it was a very aggressive snake and would bite multiple times with little or no provocation as do all water snakes. Even if bitten by a non poisionous water snake you should pay very close attention to the wound. This due to the rotting vegetation at the edge of the water they spend most of their time in. Most, if not all, poisionous snakes have the ability to give you a "dry bite". That means they can choose whether or not to inject venom and how much. Another determining factor is how long ago the snake fed and how much venom was used in that event and how sluggish it is and how much volume and toxicity has been retained at that point. Do me a personal favor. Get on the internet and research identification of these creatures. God created them the same way he did everything else and they deserve to be given the same chance as a Hummingbird and they're fascinating critters. What you have isn't a threat.
according to Audubon Field Guide to Snakes we are looking at Massasauga. The coloration is that of a juvie,rare in your area yes poison...enjoy with faba beans and a nice chianti.
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Oh, man, I hate snakes.
A few years back, my son lost a snake inside the house. I thought he was just joking when he said "mom, have you seen my snake?"
Nothing like stepping out of the shower, butt naked, when the damn snake slithers out from under the clothes hamper.
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All attempts at identifying those snakes aside there is one basic premise that I learned from a very early age.
Premise: There are only two kinds of snakes in the world--those that will hurt you, and those that will make you hurt yourself.
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The Massasauga will often act like a rattlesnake and is often mistaken for one. But it is an endangered venomous snake. I believe that is what these are but I am not 100% sure.
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