Last surviving leader of Warsaw Ghetto uprising dies

Last surviving leader of Warsaw Ghetto uprising dies

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    Last surviving leader of Warsaw Ghetto uprising dies

    From a comrade of mine:


    On Jan. 18, 1943, an organized insurgency of Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto lead by Bundists (Socialists), Zionists, and Communists engaged Nazi troops sent to organize a mass deportation in armed combat. The two main Jewish military groups ultimately numbered between 400 to 1000 fighters, women and men, armed with smuggled pistols, grenades, Molotov cocktails and what we today call IEDs. They had a handful of rifles as well. To their credit the rising received the support of the gentile Polish Nationalist Home Army outside the Ghetto as well. The insurgents managed to hold out until April 29, almost _four_ months, against 2000 (freshly relieved and well fed) Nazi troops a day, including 6 SS battalions under the command of SS Brigadefuehrer (Major General) Juergen Stroop ("Operation Reinhard," documented in Stroop's horrific report, available in English as The Stroop Report; he was hanged at Nuremberg.) Fires set by the Nazis or starting in the fighting finally drove the last surviving few fighters outside the Ghetto walls.

    Edelman, a cofounder of the Jewish Conbat Organization, one of two chief units to lead the battle, was a Bundist. He also participated in the disastrous Warsaw Uprising of 1944 as a member of the People's Army. (No fear of death he!) He was a cardiologist and remained in Poland until his death. In 1980 he joined Solidarnosc in opposition to the stalinist military coup

    Warsaw ghetto uprising leader Edelman dies at 90 - Yahoo! News

    Honor his memory. A great man is gone.

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    Bertolt Brecht, "To The German Soldiers In The East", stanza 9.


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    Firearms allowed them to do this...

    One would think that the majority of Jews would belong to this...
    Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership - Homepage ...but they do not!
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    Not to split hairs, but a Brigadefuehrer is actually a Brigadier General. A Gruppenfuehrer is a Major General.
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    Thanks AS for the correction.

    RetSupt, I think that many Jews are of the liberal persuasion. From the 30s to 50s, when Jews were more working class/plebian and oriented toward socialist/communist politics, they were liable to more fully support the second amendment. Now that many or most Jews are more upper middle class and liberal, they share the politics of liberals who live in metropolitan areas. They are also farther away, historically and socially from their forebears who had to deal with mobsters, goons and fascists.

    So, this will put a damper on JFTPFOs recruitment efforts. The other hindrance is JFTPFOs right-wing politics in relation to Israel and history in general. It does not jibe with the worldview of a majority of Jews.

    But yes, the guerillas of the Warsaw Ghetto's last stand was made possible by being armed.
    By the forests, behind the guns/In the streets and in the houses/Between the tanks, by the roadside/At the hands of the men, of the women, of the children/In the cold, in the dark, in hunger....

    Bertolt Brecht, "To The German Soldiers In The East", stanza 9.

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    And it had to be all smuggled weapons, too. There's a reason governments would rather have their people disarmed - and as plainly seen here, it has nothing to do with "public safety."

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    Very Brave Men & Women.
    They put up a good fight for their lives.
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    History repeats itself time after time after time. Why is it that sheep keep thinking that this time it will be different?

    I salute those who fought the good fight against tyranny.
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    It was this story about the Warsaw Ghetto that turned me into a firearms activist.

    The other half of the story is this: During the so-called democratic Weimar Republic, Germans had to register their firearms. After the Hitler coup, all Germans except Nazi Party members were told to hand in their firearms. Unfortunately, for themselves and the rest of the world, they did. One wonders how many millions of lives would have been saved if the Germans themselves could have rid their country of the Nazis.

    Horribly, we have seen the British and the Australians line up and hand in their firearms.

    Canada came close.

    Whatever you do, fight any attempt at registration. Of course, your firearms are already "registered" in retail logbooks and probably on databases that are supposed to be erased. Yeah, right.
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    It depends on which Jews you speak with; The Jews I know are die-hard conservatives, many of them were at the San Antonio Tea Party with Glenn Beck, Joe Pags & Uncle Ted Nugent. I also know many native Israelis from my shooting days, and none of them are anything near a Lib....

    The lions' share of the Liberal Jews we think of are back east in places like New York or out on the left coast.....

    Nonetheless, a very good story and object lesson on why you never give up your rights to defend yourself to anyone or any government. I did a book report back in high school on the subject of the holocaust, and one of our neighbors who was a survivor of the Buchenwald camp gave me one of the books that changed my life reading it. The title was "Mila 18" by the great novelist Leon Uris. It was fiction, but based on the true events that occurred there in the Warsaw Ghetto; it compelled me to read more about the actual heroes of that battle......
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