This is a discussion on Refuse to tip and get cuffed? within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; wonder why the police got involved and didn't use discretion I would have told them to take it to small claims court as it was ...
wonder why the police got involved and didn't use discretion
I would have told them to take it to small claims court as it was a disputed comercial transaction
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My opinion,if you think your wait staff needs more money,then charge more for the food and pay them the increase,In no way should a tip be mandatory.I would be surprised if this business didn't close after this incident,I would never darken their door way
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Wow what a joke of an owner. In my younger days I worked as a waiter and I did a good job, but when other waiters/waitresses got bad tips there is 1 of 2 reason they tipped bad....they're either bad tippers or food/service sucked. If your food/service sux expect to get a bad tip from me that's just the way it is. If your a good waiter/waitress i'll tip hefty cause I've been there done that.
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"Mandatory tip" is an oxymoron like "military intelligence" and "educational television"
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The shmucks at the restaurant are demand tipping as a right? It's yet one more example of misconstruing the term "entitlement" and thinking it applies to such mundane things as extra service that failed to be provided.
If the place is of the sort that has a statement on the menu and the business is known for an automatically-added gratuity, then I suppose the person has been forewarned about it. But then, the person should also know about the place and whether it's that good.
Still, if service is truly bad, I don't give a damn if the restaurant typically adds gratuity to the bill. I, too, would refuse to be extorted into paying extra for failure to provide a service. It's not a contract, simply sitting for a meal in exchange for the service. Payment is made for what's received. The food has a fixed price; but the service is extra. Forcing payment else facing arrest? That's extortion, pure and simple.
A tip is an extra gift to the service folks who made the experience memorable. Well, in this case, they apparently chose to make it memorable in another manner. Time to speak to the press, or an attorney. Being cuffed-and-stuffed, defamed and treated in such a manner for refusing extortion isn't supportable.
Last edited by ccw9mm; November 20th, 2009 at 06:09 PM. Reason: grammar
"TIP" stands for To Insure Promptness.
If the service was lousy then there should be no monetary reward for terrible service.
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The ones charged should be the folks at the restaurant for filing a false report and deliberate wasting of public resources, let alone the extortion attempt. Imagine ... there's a District Attorney who is apparently supporting these claims.
Sounds like a civil dispute, If I was the cop I would get the ID of the people and give the information to the manger and tell them to take it to civil court.
We have some place up here that pull this stunt, I always tell them I will pay the bill but not the service charge.
FWIW, I despise the automatic tip. Whenever I go out to eat, which is often, I make sure I tip in cash separate from the bill. I always want my point to be clear to the wait staff if they did a good job or not. I tend to tip very well as I appreciate hard work and good service. Shoddy service gets nothing.
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exactly my thoughts paramedic70002
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I agree it's a travesty that an establishment can have someone arrested on a charge such as this, but IMO, if the service was that bad. The group really should have had some serious complaints with the manager and demanded either better service, or some reduction on the overall bill. At that point if the manager said no, I'd said well forget the food and we're gonna settle up now.
It might have messed the evening up a little to have to find another place to have dinner, but I don't think it could've ended any worse that it did anyway.
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