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    Random thought 1

    If someone gives you a gift card to a gun shop, and you buy a gun, could this be construed by an anti or the ATF as a straw buy?
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    I don't think so. It would be the same as if some one gave you a birthday card with cash in it. Then again, common sense never really figures in to the minds of some people. Anti's can read bad intentions in to just about anything.
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    No; I think the purpose of the gift card is to avoid any appearance of a straw buy.

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    No. Its not a straw purchase until that person fills out the 4473.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIXTO View Post
    No. Its not a straw purchase until that person fills out the 4473.


    It's not who puts up the money.

    It's who gets the gun -- it must be the same person who fills out the 4473.
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    It's not really who fills out the 4473. It's perfectly legal for me to purchase a gun, fill out the 4473 in my name and then gift it to someone else. It only becomes a straw purchase if I give the gun to someone who could not have legally bought the gun themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paramedic70002 View Post
    If someone gives you a gift card to a gun shop, and you buy a gun, could this be construed by an anti or the ATF as a straw buy?
    This could possibly get you into trouble...send me the gift card and I'll be the test subject. I'll only do this for fellow forum members.
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    If somebody gives you a gift card for a gun shop, and you buy a gun..........

    then you have really great friends and family

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvhoss View Post
    It's not really who fills out the 4473. It's perfectly legal for me to purchase a gun, fill out the 4473 in my name and then gift it to someone else. It only becomes a straw purchase if I give the gun to someone who could not have legally bought the gun themselves.

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    Also true -- albeit some States complicate the federal process with registration and other nonsense.

    I was just reflecting on someone giving money or a gift card before the purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvhoss View Post
    It's not really who fills out the 4473. It's perfectly legal for me to purchase a gun, fill out the 4473 in my name and then gift it to someone else. It only becomes a straw purchase if I give the gun to someone who could not have legally bought the gun themselves.
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    No, like the others have stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppkheat View Post
    This is what I've alway's thought.
    From the ATF's "Don't Lie for the Other Guy" pamphlet:
    Purchasing a gun for someone who is prohibited by law from possessing one, or for someone who does not want his or her name associated with the transaction, is a “straw purchase,” a Federal crime punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000.
    From the "Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms . Youth Crime Gun Interdiction Initiative" glossary:
    STRAW PURCHASE
    The acquisition of a firearm(s) from a Federally licensed firearms dealer by an individual (the straw purchaser) for the purpose of concealing the identity of the true intended receiver of the firearm(s).
    From the "Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco & Firearms • Youth Crime Gun Interdiction Initiative" publication
    Straw Purchaser
    A straw purchaser is a person illegally purchasing a firearm for another person, for instance for a juvenile or adult felon.
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