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    Almost bought a safe,almost!

    Went to Gander today,after looking at safes for a month I made up my mind. Delivery? They advertise a company to deliver for 250.00. I asked for a time and was told," oh the guy comes by about every couple of weeks to see if we need anything delivered." from my life experience this means maybe a month or two! I do not want to wrangle a 700 lb. safe to my house. The bad thing is,Gander has good prices. Talk to the manager?Sure, but they will not put a delivery date on paper. Would you go higher up the food chain with a company to see if you could get something less vague than a couple of weeks. Anyone had experience buying a safe from Gander and having it delivered? I do not want any old guy with a lift gate to bring this to my house. Ideas?


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    Get some friends to help move it?....pizza and beer (after it's moved)?
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    If you can get three other healthy friends and rent a heavy duty dolly from U-Haul, you can do it yourself for way under $250. I've moved frigs, cast iron bathtubs to a second floor, etc. It can be done with eight hands.
    I'm surprised that they have such a carefree attitude about delivery...I'd look around. My gun shop delivered my two safes (2 years apart) and put them right where I wanted them. The taller Browning was moved by two guys with a super duty dolly.
    I bought each the safes during a sale, and got free delivery.
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    See if you can find an American Security dealer near you,...Before you buy from Gander.
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    Good ideas. I will check local gun shops and lock and safe dealers. The safe I picked out is less then $1000. It is much better than stashing guns and ammo around the house. One thing that prompted me to go ahead with a safe is this, hurricane evacuation,in my area,is now mandatory in the true sense of the word. I do not know how the cops will make this happen but this is the official word from the emergency management group in our area. We will leave anyway,hurricanes are nothing to play with. Until now, it was a choice to stay or go. it will be interesting to see if authorities will be able to roust a bunch of rednecks from their homes by force. My point is,this will be a great day for thieves. If they know most people are gone,it will be like Christmas for them. At least a safe may save what I need to leave behind.Thanks for the ideas.

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    Check out Patriot. They sell direct and the safe is shipped right to where you want it and unloaded with a pallet jack. The driver put the safe right where I wanted it. If you have stairs to move it up it might be a different story but you can ask the staff a Patriot. I am very happy with my Patriot safe. Safe was suppose to be delivered in 6 days. Was delivered in 5.
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    you would be shocked at how easy even a good quality safe can be broken into with some time and the right basic tools...if your home is abandoned and the thieves have what is apparently unlimited time they will open the safe...

    its a great idea just dont be disillusioned by it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.stuart View Post
    Ideas?
    You don't want to wrangle a heavy safe into the house. But, consider that this is one of the things that makes it difficult for a thief to wrangle one out of your house. Which is the point of having the safe.

    The delivery schedule is fairly soon. Consider that purchase of a large safe from a major (quality) manufacturer can result in weeks before it's ensconced in the house. "Weeks" (or, in your experience, a month or two) isn't so far off the mark.

    You don't like the answer you got from the staff, or from the manager. So, you're considering going up to Gander corporate, in hopes of having them tell you that a different delivery schedule can be managed. You can try it. Don't know how far you'll get. You can go with your own delivery service, perhaps, but Gander will need to agree on that truck docking and the Gander staff assisting with the load.


    You don't want a lift-gate type feature on the delivery truck. Fine. Then, would you prefer the truck driver push it to you and your pals? Either you've got to have a fork lift or a "Tommy Lift" arrangement, or possibly a long ramp with a heavy-duty hand truck. Either purchase the tool yourself or take what the delivery guy has. Can't imagine what problem there is with a lift-gate device. It ought to work just fine, for getting the unit off the truck to the curb. But you've still got to wheel it to the destination spot.


    My suggestion: If a safe from Gander is your thing, accept that a ~45-day delivery with a lift-gate truck is perfectly acceptable, and that rolling to the destination via hand truck and/or dollies is going to be the method of choice. My safe weighs a ton and required these things to get it installed. Worked just fine.
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    I went in a house one day(I work on stuff in peoples homes) that belonged to a master carpenter. He built the house himself of course. He had the most amazing secret room. It was behind a book shelf and the latch was actually a book. A safe is cool, but a secret room is like a vault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.stuart View Post
    Went to Gander today,after looking at safes for a month I made up my mind. Delivery? They advertise a company to deliver for 250.00. I asked for a time and was told," oh the guy comes by about every couple of weeks to see if we need anything delivered." from my life experience this means maybe a month or two! I do not want to wrangle a 700 lb. safe to my house. The bad thing is,Gander has good prices. Talk to the manager?Sure, but they will not put a delivery date on paper. Would you go higher up the food chain with a company to see if you could get something less vague than a couple of weeks. Anyone had experience buying a safe from Gander and having it delivered? I do not want any old guy with a lift gate to bring this to my house. Ideas?

    You know........if you've got some friends with hauling equipment (refrigerator dolly, etc...). EBay does have some great deals on gun safes....delivered to the curb! No joke...laugh if you want, but I have seen some go for way less than manufacturer prices delivered curbside. Anyone who owns firearms, a couple, a few, or several, should never find peace until they can secure them beyond a reasonable doubt. I realize this is another financial burden above and beyond firearm ownership, but the two pretty much go hand in hand. Security is what you're after. Get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    You don't want to wrangle a heavy safe into the house. But, consider that this is one of the things that makes it difficult for a thief to wrangle one out of your house. Which is the point of having the safe.

    The delivery schedule is fairly soon. Consider that purchase of a large safe from a major (quality) manufacturer can result in weeks before it's ensconced in the house. "Weeks" (or, in your experience, a month or two) isn't so far off the mark.

    You don't like the answer you got from the staff, or from the manager. So, you're considering going up to Gander corporate, in hopes of having them tell you that a different delivery schedule can be managed. You can try it. Don't know how far you'll get. You can go with your own delivery service, perhaps, but Gander will need to agree on that truck docking and the Gander staff assisting with the load.


    You don't want a lift-gate type feature on the delivery truck. Fine. Then, would you prefer the truck driver push it to you and your pals? Either you've got to have a fork lift or a "Tommy Lift" arrangement, or possibly a long ramp with a heavy-duty hand truck. Either purchase the tool yourself or take what the delivery guy has. Can't imagine what problem there is with a lift-gate device. It ought to work just fine, for getting the unit off the truck to the curb. But you've still got to wheel it to the destination spot.


    My suggestion: If a safe from Gander is your thing, accept that a ~45-day delivery with a lift-gate truck is perfectly acceptable, and that rolling to the destination via hand truck and/or dollies is going to be the method of choice. My safe weighs a ton and required these things to get it installed. Worked just fine.
    As always I enjoy your posts. I have no problem with a lift-gate. I do not want to hire just anybody to move an expensive item I pay for.As in some bubba that 'borrowed' a truck from his day job. The thing that bothered me is the casual attitude at Gander. It has been years since I had to deal with the public,but I did spend 27 years with John Q.Public , usually 6 days a week. Nobody does me a favor by taking my money. This is the typical attitude in our modern world. Whether working for myself or a large company,I always sucked it up and understood it was my job to serve the customer. Maybe you will accept inept service from people.I will do without before I will give my cash to people who act like I am bothering them.

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    You didn't buy it because you has second thoughts. Good.
    I bought mine from a local safe company after walking out 3 times and coming back with more questions. They then made a shelf for free using the same carpet, and they delivered it in my room, set up and leveled for $125. That included taking the door off the hinges, and the handle off the safe.
    It was the best money I spent.
    Look in the yellow pages under "safe" and go pay them a visit. I hated some, (they treated me like an inconvenience) and loved the final winner.
    He still sees me at the gun shows and gives me a free polishing cloth or Velcro gun hanger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.stuart View Post
    Maybe you will accept inept service from people.I will do without before I will give my cash to people who act like I am bothering them.
    Inept doesn't get my business, either. Good for you.

    One option is to purchase it used, and then to arrange delivery via a professional safe company. Such firms obviously have the equipment and attitude to get it done properly. They can also perform services such as moving it up or down stairs, anchoring it to the foundation, drilling holes for your golden rod heater, etc.

    Some good safe companies also keep a few used examples in stock. They know that such customers will often be future customers, if they get a good deal and excellent service. You might be surprised at what deals your local safe companies have.

    Check out CraigsList. Generally, you can save 30-50% off new, this way, or more. Consider liquidation sales, too. Companies that are closing their doors often are selling everything except the carpeting.

    Example of store liquidations:
    • AMSEC commercial-grade safe, 40x30x25, 1400 lbs, $800 (Memphis, TN).
    • AMSEC safe, $800 (Tampa, FL).


    The best example of a great deal I found was a TL-30 rated safe for $500. It was normally priced above $6K new. Came and went pretty quickly. Second-best deal I found is one I got, myself. Saved two-thirds from new, and arranged the delivery/install via a quality safe company.
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    Thanks to all for the advice.I will check into these ideas.

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    I got a great deal on a Liberty safe at a gun shop waaay out in the country.

    I was afraid to buy a safe because I didn't know how to get it home. I asked my son and a couple of very strong friends to help out.

    Not a problem. 800 pound safe is in place and I feel good!!!

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