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    My fiancee travels regularly through some jurisdictions that regularly patrol for "revenue enhancement purposes" and the little black books of the officers. They are known to pull over young ladies...charge them with speeding then sexually harass them, and offer to take it out in trade. They hide quite regularly. She would like a radar detector to be aware of their presence. She does try to watch her speed but things happen. No flames about leaving early or being more careful she does this, but these "officers" are unscrupulous. I just need recommendations on where to buy a good quality radr/laser detector for the best price available. Suggestions on wha brand, model would be appreciated.
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    I got one of these a while back..................

    https://www.escortradar.com/store/passport-9500i.html

    Not cheap, but it works well. Forget about protection from laser radar. It only lights up to tell you it's time to pull over.

    Keep in mind a radar detector is basically a radio receiver and lets you know when it's picked up a signal. Cheap radar detectors pick up too many signals and give you lots of false alarms. What happens then is when it goes off for real you think it's falsing, and it's ticket time.

    Other things do operate on the same frequencies such as alarms, motion sensors etc, and will cause false alarms. These are unavoidable. My detector uses GPS technology and will "learn" (with your assistance) where these are. This information is stored and when the known signal is detected, the unit stays silent. It is, however, smart enough that if an additional signal is detected, it lets you know.

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    I know you didnt ask this, but with a newer radar unit and a decent operator, even the best detectors are not going to cut it.
    They will work well with the old radars or lazy operator.

    With that said, if I was going to buy one it would be a Valentine.
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    Valentine one hands down the best. Had one for years never failed me. It shows you which direction the signal is coming from. It also shows you signal strength which lets you know if it's a grocery store automatic door or a cop. I have a 450hp car (lexus ISF) and I like to use it, never leave home without it.
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    Here is the thing. Radar detectors work only if the officer keeps the radar unit on, so your high dollar detector may do you little good.

    I dont. When I sit on the side of the road and I am shooting a particular area, I know that alot of people have radar detectors. I have a switch that I can flash on or off. When you pick up the signal, it's too late, by the time your detector alerts you I already have your speed showing on my display.

    The Laser not only gets the speed, but also the exact distance. There are no countermeasures against the Laser (unless you happen to be in a M1A1 Abrams or a fighter jet) and there is only one fool proof defense against the radar or the Laser that works every time.

    That is to drive the speed limit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwhite75 View Post
    They are known to pull over young ladies...charge them with speeding then sexually harass them, and offer to take it out in trade.
    I don't know how you know "they are known" to do that, or if you know they do that; or if you just have a fertile imagination.

    If you have evidence, know someone who has evidence or can testify, or someone who had a bad experience, you owe it to everyone (society) to bring that to the attention of the appropriate authorities---this could be, a DA; FBI; leadership of your HWY Patrol; a ranking judge; a local honest judge; an elected official. There are lots of options. I'm sure there are newsy reporters who would love to publish a story like this if true.

    So if you know, and aren't just passing along idle town gossip, get it out in the open. If you don't know, don't slander or libel the LEs in your area.

    And if you do "know," be courageous and do the right thing.

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    I would also look into a mini tape recorder and try to recod the officer's offer to get out of the ticket on trade as well. That way if she does get pulled over anyway, she can still get out of the ticket and bust the scumbags who are abusing power and giving other LEOs a bad name.
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    Wow, there are no unscrupulous or incompetent cops anywhere. My mother got a ticket for going 45 mph in a 35 zone one block after a stop sign. Her car couldn't do 45 after a block going downhill in a hurricane.

    But to the OP's question - yeah, if you are the only car on the road, you can't react fast enough to beat a laser or most radars. But most cops will "paint" more than one car within the range of the better detectors, both laser and radar.

    It has been a while since I bought a detector, but the Valentine is the best (kind of pricey). Bel used to have quite the rep, but it has been awhile. Last I heard, the Escort 8500 got good reviews.

    You can get a micro-recorder, ask the cop for the badge number and name, ask when the last time the speed gun was calibrated (there should be some documentation on that). But be aware that cops can spend a lot of time finding some violation (real or imagined) to write you additional tickets for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Here is the thing. Radar detectors work only if the officer keeps the radar unit on, so your high dollar detector may do you little good.

    I dont. When I sit on the side of the road and I am shooting a particular area, I know that alot of people have radar detectors. I have a switch that I can flash on or off. When you pick up the signal, it's too late, by the time your detector alerts you I already have your speed showing on my display.

    The Laser not only gets the speed, but also the exact distance. There are no countermeasures against the Laser (unless you happen to be in a M1A1 Abrams or a fighter jet) and there is only one fool proof defense against the radar or the Laser that works every time.

    That is to drive the speed limit.
    If I want to "make time" I let some hot shoe "Bear Bait" pass me, then I follow about 200 yards to the rear and I too used the Valentine and it does work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    and there is only one fool proof defense against the radar or the Laser that works every time.

    That is to drive the speed limit.


    I usually drive at the limit or about+5, these days that means I'm in the right hand lane getting passed by EVERYONE!

    It's really annoying to see people going 40-50 in residential areas posted at 25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hopyard View Post
    I don't know how you know "they are known" to do that, or if you know they do that; or if you just have a fertile imagination.

    If you have evidence, know someone who has evidence or can testify, or someone who had a bad experience, you owe it to everyone (society) to bring that to the attention of the appropriate authorities---this could be, a DA; FBI; leadership of your HWY Patrol; a ranking judge; a local honest judge; an elected official. There are lots of options. I'm sure there are newsy reporters who would love to publish a story like this if true.

    So if you know, and aren't just passing along idle town gossip, get it out in the open. If you don't know, don't slander or libel the LEs in your area.

    And if you do "know," be courageous and do the right thing.
    Those are some pretty strong accusations, hopefully the OP has some proof to back up the claims?
    I'm not sure I would post something like that here.
    Maybe Google might offer some reviews for radar detectors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Here is the thing. Radar detectors work only if the officer keeps the radar unit on, so your high dollar detector may do you little good.

    I dont. When I sit on the side of the road and I am shooting a particular area, I know that alot of people have radar detectors. I have a switch that I can flash on or off. When you pick up the signal, it's too late, by the time your detector alerts you I already have your speed showing on my display.
    Unless my V1 picks up the signal of the car you just shot. ;) Happens all the time. I get a blip in front of me then it goes away, then I get another a little closer... It's obvious there is an officer up ahead using instant on radar. It has quite the range so I can be alerted long before I can see the cruiser.

    The Laser not only gets the speed, but also the exact distance. There are no countermeasures against the Laser (unless you happen to be in a M1A1 Abrams or a fighter jet) and there is only one fool proof defense against the radar or the Laser that works every time.

    That is to drive the speed limit.
    Laser is harder to detect but the V1 can do it, but you are really relying on scatter off the other cars, it's not 100%, especially if you are the only one on the road.

    With that said, I don't really drive much over the speed limit if at all, but the detector is still nice to have as a double check of speed and it has saved me on occasion.

    I had an officer in my car the other night and she was pretty impressed with the range (over a hill/around a bend) my V1 got when we passed a couple of troopers that had radar on. They had someone pulled over and I knew about their presence even before we could see the safety lights.

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    I have a Beltronics 995. It's about $300. Not as pricey as the Valentine or Escort. It's considered the top of the line mid performance or bottom of the line high performance detector. (Whatever the metrics are for top and bottom). I've had no problems with it. Great distance, accurate, low falsing except in urban areas with lots of microwave type door openers.

    Ironically, the Bel is manufactured in Mississauga, Ontario (a suburb of Toronto) Canada. Canada has a country-wide ban on radar detectors.

    If I were going to buy another detector, it would be a Bel. I've had several. For the money, they are as good as it gets. You can buy a more sensitive detector for more money, with more bells, whistles and LED's, but at a certain point, the difference of a few yards in detectable range becomes moot.

    You can google Beltronics and get the information on your own.

    Buying a detector is like anything else - the best one is the one you own. Do your research, make your own decision based upon the research. We all know what opinions are like, and the above is mine.

    Even a $50 discount detector will catch a lot of radars a much of the time. None will catch all radars all of the time. Laser is a pain in the butt, and you depend upon someone else being caught and your detector catching the scatter.

    One more caveat - Detectors are outlawed in Virginia and I believe, Connecticut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jwhite75 View Post
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    She would like a radar detector to be aware of their presence. She does try to watch her speed but things happen. No flames about leaving early or being more careful she does this, but these "officers" are unscrupulous. I just need recommendations on where to buy a good quality radr/laser detector for the best price available. Suggestions on wha brand, model would be appreciated.
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