Converting an Airsoft Rifle into a Real Machine Gun?
This is a discussion on Converting an Airsoft Rifle into a Real Machine Gun? within the Off Topic & Humor Discussion forums, part of the The Back Porch category; Originally Posted by SIGP250
I do give ATF much credit. They are the poor step children of our government now under the jurisdiction of the ...
March 3rd, 2010 12:08 PM
Yeah well, that depends on who you label as "Bad Guy" now doesn't it. I'd be perfectly happy if the earth opened up and swallowed every last one of them right where-ever they were standing...as long as they aren't standing next to me. The BATFE has absolutely no legitimate reason to exist and it's sole purpose is to encroach on freedom.
Originally Posted by SIGP250
March 3rd, 2010 12:50 PM
Right on. Consider that the pressure is contained in the upper of a AR during firing , this could well be converted to fire with a real upper if sizes match.
Originally Posted by HotGuns
"In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." Thomas Jefferson
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March 3rd, 2010 01:46 PM
Its the ATF not the DEA and They sholud have conformed with our import rules, just doing their job.
Originally Posted by ItsMyRight2
I carry a gun cause a cop is too heavy.
March 3rd, 2010 02:37 PM
We all like to bash the BATFE because they have lived up to their nickname of "jack-booted-thugs" too many time.
However, I tend to agree with Hotguns here.
First: There's a lot not being said in the story we've been told. We don't KNOW that the airsoft guns won't accept M-16 internals. We just ASSUME that they won't. Does any here know if the airsoft guns that were seized have the controllers & motors in the lower? Or is that stuff housed in the upper?
Secondly: We don't KNOW that the uppers can't be removed and a "real" M4 upper attached. IF the lower will accept a "real" upper then the whole issue that an airsoft upper won't fire real ammo is a non-starter.
So, it looks to me like IT IS POSSIBLE that someone wanted to import "fake weapons" that could easily be made full-auto by attaching a new upper and dropping in a lower parts group. Since we don't know the whole story, I'm going to go out on the limb here and say that maybe BATFE knew/knows something we don't and acted properly.
March 3rd, 2010 02:46 PM
tell that to the poor shop owner that lost 12 grand cause the ATF thought the airsoft guns looked like they could be converted.
Originally Posted by Rob P.
I don't know about the exact specific ones the ATF took but I do know that some M4/16 style airsoft I have seen house the motor assembly in the lower and it doesn't just come apart with 2 pins like an M16. Cheap ones don't even come apart at all.
There is something about firing 4,200 thirty millimeter rounds/min that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
March 11th, 2010 12:26 PM
Alex Jones covered this last week on his radio show and interviewed the plaintiff against the BATF.
March 11th, 2010 02:48 PM
It seems like a ton of work for a lower receiver. I actually think it would be easier to find a student somewhere learning to use a CNC machine. They would have access to the perfect tool to make an exact specification lower receiver. When I was going to school I knew some kids who had access to them without being supervised so they could make whatever they wanted.
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