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    One of my regular forums require 45 posts (guess which one), another 25 AND 60 days membership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by proudmarinesdad View Post
    I think your rule of 25 posts before one can offer to sell something is ludicrous! I have posted a for sale item on 04/20/08 without this rule imposed. I went into the forum to repost a WTB item and was confronted with this "NEW" rule. New to me. I have read this forum for some time and have enjoyed the different threads and information. As well I have learned alot from the members posts. This inablilty to now post without having 25 posts to other sites seems unfair; and I am not sure I want to continue if this remains to be your atttitude. I would think you would welcome new members instead of trying to run them away.
    Sorry you feel that way. Sometimes problems present themselves that need a solution. As someone else said, we are not the only ones to do this; in fact it's quite common. But the need to slow down the spam, rein in those that are primarily interested in the forum as a vehicle for advertising and reducing the chance that someone with no prior reputation here bilks one of our members is important to me and, I believe, most of our members. It's not the perfect solution by any stretch, but it is, nevertheless, a solution that most can live with.

    I assure you, my attitude is probably better than it should be. I try my best to insure that new members feel welcome and included as long as they have the right attitude.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccw9mm View Post
    View from the peanut gallery, having helped manage other forums previously ...

    It's hard to distinguish between spammers/scammers and legitimate folks, without some method. A number of web forums do this, though not all. Everyone benefits in this way, in that having been around awhile gives folks a gauge of your intent and respectability, lacking another reasonable metric. It's no guarantee, but it helps.
    i agree, it makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bumper View Post
    Sorry you feel that way. Sometimes problems present themselves that need a solution. As someone else said, we are not the only ones to do this; in fact it's quite common. But the need to slow down the spam, rein in those that are primarily interested in the forum as a vehicle for advertising and reducing the chance that someone with no prior reputation here bilks one of our members is important to me and, I believe, most of our members. It's not the perfect solution by any stretch, but it is, nevertheless, a solution that most can live with.

    I assure you, my attitude is probably better than it should be. I try my best to insure that new members feel welcome and included as long as they have the right attitude.....
    i completely support Bumper in this decision. if it were up to me it would be more posts. some people go from forum to forum running scams they dont hang around very long and dont post much at all.
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    not an inconvenience, just good common sense!
    Glad there is some concern and control here.
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    withdraw my name!!

    Well I am sorry for the stance you have taken on this. It seems "birds of a feather" flock together. I really don't understand your reasons nor do I respect them. I am a 66 year old man, married,veteran, retired, volunteer in my community: and with a son in the Marine Corp. I stated my intent when I joined this forum. I am,obviously, not of like mindedness, with this forum. I request you remove my posts and me from this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proudmarinesdad View Post
    I really don't understand your reasons nor do I respect them.
    Well, there you go. In simple terms, that's the distinction. Respect. There's a lesson there, for those who see it. One could easily say that it's a primary reason most are here.

    I, for one, respect your decision to leave. Would preferr to have you, but not if you're unhappy and don't find a "fit."
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    Quote Originally Posted by proudmarinesdad View Post
    Well I am sorry for the stance you have taken on this. It seems "birds of a feather" flock together. I really don't understand your reasons nor do I respect them. I am a 66 year old man, married,veteran, retired, volunteer in my community: and with a son in the Marine Corp. I stated my intent when I joined this forum. I am,obviously, not of like mindedness, with this forum. I request you remove my posts and me from this forum.
    I hope you change your mind and stick around. I don't see any reason to be uspet unless you just wanted to use the forum as a free place to sell things. That doesn't seem to be within the spirit of being a member here. Nobody really wants to buy from a spammer anyway.

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    Didn't understand posting criteria

    I may have gotten upset as I didn't understand why I was allowed to post on the buy,sell,trade on 04/20/08; but then refused to post on 04/25/08. I can understand your wanting to protect this forum from spammers(thought I don't know what those are?). But my nose got bent out of shape by the forum's moderators inconsistency and applying a rule after the fact. Oh well, live and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proudmarinesdad View Post
    I may have gotten upset as I didn't understand why I was allowed to post on the buy,sell,trade on 04/20/08; but then refused to post on 04/25/08. I can understand your wanting to protect this forum from spammers (though I don't know what those are?).
    But my nose got bent out of shape by the forum's moderators inconsistency and applying a rule after the fact.
    Oh well, live and learn.
    You don't know what a spammer is?
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    someone missed the boat

    Somewhere, somehow it seems i may have pissed someone off?? When I make what I think is a serious reply, you guys pick put what you want to respond to and lambast away!I had enough of this kind of thinking when I was in the workplace. And really don't feel up to playing silly little games. Naively, I thought I might get a meaningfull, logical answer here. I guess i have been mistaken. Well not again!! You guys have fun playing with each other. I'm outta of here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by proudmarinesdad View Post
    Well I am sorry for the stance you have taken on this. It seems "birds of a feather" flock together. I really don't understand your reasons nor do I respect them. I am a 66 year old man, married,veteran, retired, volunteer in my community: and with a son in the Marine Corp. I stated my intent when I joined this forum. I am,obviously, not of like mindedness, with this forum. I request you remove my posts and me from this forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by proudmarinesdad View Post
    I may have gotten upset as I didn't understand why I was allowed to post on the buy,sell,trade on 04/20/08; but then refused to post on 04/25/08. I can understand your wanting to protect this forum from spammers(thought I don't know what those are?). But my nose got bent out of shape by the forum's moderators inconsistency and applying a rule after the fact. Oh well, live and learn.
    Quote Originally Posted by proudmarinesdad View Post
    Somewhere, somehow it seems i may have pissed someone off?? When I make what I think is a serious reply, you guys pick put what you want to respond to and lambast away!I had enough of this kind of thinking when I was in the workplace. And really don't feel up to playing silly little games. Naively, I thought I might get a meaningfull, logical answer here. I guess i have been mistaken. Well not again!! You guys have fun playing with each other. I'm outta of here.
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    Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

    ROFLMAO How do you really feel JD LOL
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    Sorry JD, I think you are being too harsh on this gentleman. He isn't coming across as a "wiseguy" but someone who isn't computer savvy and doesn't understand what "spam" is or why there is a need to protect members from "hit 'n run" advertisers.

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    Proudmarinesdad, let me give a shot at answering your questions. [Disclaimer: I am just a "member" here just like you. I have no role in running this fine site, but I do have 2+ years experience on another forum where I was deeply involved with managing that forum as it grew from nothing to a very busy regional site.]

    - Your first post (ad) was placed prior the new rule being implement. That's why you could post the first ad and your second ad got "caught" by the new rule (which is automated and would catch anyone who tried to post an ad with fewer prior posts).

    - In managing a forum, there have to be rules in place and applied in an even-handed manner or chaos rules. This is a very family friendly forum that is extremely well run (best that I've ever encountered on the Internet) and it is because those that manage it post reasonable rules and apply them fairly.

    - "Spammers" are those that post ads for obscene stuff, drugs (many of which are probably counterfeit), goods at totally unreal prices (stolen, counterfeit, or just to rip off your credit card/identity), etc. Some also use the term to describe those that use a forum ONLY to post "for sale" ads and don't contribute anything else to the forum.

    - A little history based on some other forums I've been on for many years:

    * Someone allegedly advertised a mag refinishing business, allegedly took in an estimated $50K and a ton of mags from members and then allegedly vanished!

    * Some new folks posted cell phones for sale on a SprintPCS forum, took the money and never delivered the goods. It happened enough that they implemented a minimum number of posts and minimum number of months on that forum before anyone can post an ad.

    - Thus some of us who have been around the Internet for a while check a poster's history before deciding whether to do business with him/her or not. I've seen a number of ads lately (here and on GlockTalk) posted by people with no more than 60 posts (some of these folks were registered for a few years). I won't consider doing business with such folks unless I know them from somewhere else. I'm just not going to risk sending money to what I consider an "unknown person". There are some forums where I've been registered for years and yet I've posted anywhere from ZERO to maybe 6-7 times over that time. I wouldn't expect anyone to trust me there either unless they knew me from somewhere else.

    - As DC has grown, Bumper has decided to take some steps to protect ALL of us here from getting ripped off. That is the sole reason for the rule. It wasn't meant as an offense to you or anyone else. That is the manner in which you should take this . . . if you knew some of the nasty stuff that occurs on the Internet, you'd have a better appreciation for this, in the meantime you'll just have to trust folks . . . that they are looking out for their members in the most responsible way that is practical.

    Please give this some thought and reconsider sticking around?

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