Now that's refreshing!
This is a discussion on Prince William County police get it right (OC) within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; from a VA-ALERT. VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc. [First person singular pronouns (I, my, mine, etc) and “PVC” reference ...
from a VA-ALERT.
VA-ALERT is a project of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, Inc.
[First person singular pronouns (I, my, mine, etc) and “PVC” reference Philip Van Cleave, President VCDL]
DaveH: Amen and AMEN!VCDL member Bob James emailed me about his positive open carry
experience in Prince William County.
<<So there I was . . .
Wednesday night, 10 March 2010, about 2130, I stopped at a Burger King
at Nokesville Road (Rte 28) and Pennsylvania Avenue in Prince William
County. I was open carrying, as is my wont. I have entered Burger
Kings and other fast food joints countless times all over the Northern
Virginia area without incident. Tonight was different, dear readers,
but not unpleasantly so.
The bored but affable young lady at the counter took my order, no
problem. But the manager, a flinty-eyed woman with a sour expression
on her face, was surveying me with ill-concealed hostility. She spoke
as I retrieved my order and asked with some beligerence: "Let me ask
you a question. Are you a police officer?"
I smiled, and answered "No, ma'am, I am not." I paused for the
anticipated follow-up question, but none was forthcoming; the
manager's expression just got darker, so I said nothing more and sat
down to eat.
Five minutes later, I saw the PWCP car roll up, headlights off, and
two officers enter the store. Here's the kicker. They never looked
askance at me, never asked me my name or business or why I thought I
needed a gun, or any of that nonsense. They didn't disarm me, prone me
out on the floor, or call me nasty names. Instead, both officers went
straight to the manager, who had once again returned to the front
counter to beckon them.
I could hear the manager hissing about the man with a gun, and one
officer asking, "Did he threaten anyone? Was he waving it around?"
Finally, he explained that my behavior was perfectly legal in
Virginia. Neither officer contacted me, or even so much as walked
around the tile barrier to see whether or what I was carrying. End of
As it should be. [PVC: AMEN.]
Kudos to the Prince William County Police officers who handled this
call with consummate professionalism and class.
Well another NOVA county gets it right.
BTW: in an earlier thread about off-base-housing around Quantico, I had said that Prince William had a rep as being fair re: RKBA. Glad to see that the impression is holding up.
Last edited by DaveH; March 18th, 2010 at 04:53 PM. Reason: Added BTW
I'm just one root in a grassroots organization. No one should assume that I speak for the VCDL.
I am neither an attorney-at-law nor I do play one on television or on the internet. No one should assumes my opinion is legal advice.
Veni, Vidi, Velcro
Now that's refreshing!
I prefer to live dangerously free than safely caged!
"Our houses are protected by the good Lord and a gun. And you might meet 'em both if you show up here not welcome son." Josh Thompson "Way Out Here"
I don't live very far from there.
Sounds like the PW folks are a class act!
Benjamin Franklin: "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security."
Kudos to the police; to the manager, not so much. One wonders if Bob James will ever enter that BK again. I wouldn't (even if I were a fast-food eater).
Kudos to the LEOs from me too.
Just what I was thinking
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pick up a turd by the clean end**.**" Author Unknown
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I think it depends on where you are in PW County. If the PWPD receive a call in Woodbridge, the outcome could have been much different.
Don't believe what you hear and only half of what you see!
You may not like guns. You may choose not to own one. That is your right.
You might not believe in God. That is your choice.
However, if someone breaks into your home at 3AM the first two things you are going to do are:
1) Call someone with a gun.
2)Pray they get there in time." - A wise man
They must have trained them right! Amen
Why Would A Preacher ever need a Gun? Its Not for the Sheep , its for the Wolves!
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Police officers that know the law and inform the ignorant, bravo.