This is a discussion on My NRA instructor was very against open carry within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by 1sty That, right there is why everyone should open carry! It keeps people from New Jersey, in New Jersey. That explains why ...
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I'm a resident of New Mexico and I'm glad our state allows open carry. When open carrying you have to weigh some factors like locale. I've open carried in places like Socorro and Dalies, rural areas where guns are accepted and no one thinks twice about it. I certainly wouldn't open carry in Albuquerque or Santa Fe. This is a surefire way to get to meet the local SWAT team, even though it's perfectly legal.
Another factor is holster type. Few if any carriers are going to want to wear police type holsters to secure their guns. Most carry holsters are far from snatch proof and you know soner or later someone is going to try and grab your 1911 from your Askins Avenger.
Just my thoughts.
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Think maybe NRA has an adgenda?
This is from a Phonex newspaper article about Arizona's new Constitutinal Carry Law....
Arizona Enacts “Constitutional Carry” For Firearms
Saturday, April 17, 2010
By Alan Korwin
“Freedom To Carry” may replace so-called “Right To Carry” nationally
PHOENIX — With governor Jan Brewer’s signature on the new “Constitutional Carry” firearm law today, Arizona becomes a beacon state for the nation on the gun-rights issue.
Bla bla bla and then he goes on to say....
AFTERWORD: INSIDER INFORMATION:
There is one reason and one reason only why this got done –
The Arizona Citizens Defense League.
That small handful of guys running this group, the two full-time volunteer lobbyists Dave Kopp and John Wentling, and the thousands of members who supported the effort with their tiny membership dues are exactly and precisely why our rights have expanded.
It was a deliberate, conscientious, focused and tireless effort from what must be a candidate for the best pro-rights organization in the nation. Get your friends to join, send a donation or buy a t-shirt or hat, attend the meetings, and in your little way, make a difference and preserve our rights. AZCDL Home
One other tidbit — the NRA was rightfully nervous about this whole Freedom To Carry, permitless, no training, no red tape expansion of our rights. They dragged their feet at first, that’s putting it mildly, and I can’t say I blame them. An awful lot was on the line.
They wanted to be prudent. Limit exposure and risk. They have all their trainers to think about and that revenue stream. The chance of falling flat on your face in total embarrassment is a serious concern. The ease with which the antis might cast us as dangerous gun-toting (their media’s favorite slur) nuts is a real issue.
I personally debated hard with some of the top brass, and to their credit, they finally agreed not to fight the effort in Arizona, and eventually saw the light and got on board. Some gun owners like to pick on the NRA, but the NRA is going to be at the forefront of this battle. The Constitutional Carry issue does make sense, for them and for us. It will be a winner in some states, maybe yours, and does advance everything for which NRA members stand.
Yes, some of those members, steeped in darkness, or hooked on the government-permit feed trough, believe that red-tapeless carry is a bad idea. They crave government supervision. They want that permission slip in their wallet. They’ll learn, and come around. And continue to get fine training from NRA certified and other trainers because it’s the right thing to do, not because the government commands it. Appleseed is doing a phenomenal job in the training arena too, check them out while you’re at it. Appleseed Project Home
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If you can legally OC, then it doesn't matter what any instructor says. You have the legal right to OC, so it is ultimately your decision to make and no one else's.
I've OCed since 1995 and I've learned lot. It is possible to OC and not attract any attention, if done right. Personally, I asked the Chief of Police and the Sherrif for their thoughts and how their officers view OC. Both were totally okay with it. In all of these years, only one officer had a problem with it. He was later fired for how he treated the public.
Even the time the four of us walked into McDonalds right off of Cerrillos after a day at the outdoor range nobody said anything. We all where OC'ing.
Sad that things have changed that badly in New Mexico.