Open carry in ct?????
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April 18th, 2010 10:18 AM
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Open carry in ct?????
Well I got this from CCDL in an e-mail and thought I would pass it on.
Support Is Growing For Openly Carrying Permitted Weapons - Courant.com
What do you think????
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April 18th, 2010 10:18 AM
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April 18th, 2010 11:35 AM
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It's perfectly legal...so if you're inclined go ahead and do it. I know there are those who think you should always go concealed..but sometimes its just easier not to worry about it.
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April 18th, 2010 11:36 AM
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I think if you intend to do it, PM me so I can clear space on my court appearance list, and we can talk about how much it will cost to represent you.
CT, both in local PD's and the State Police Firearm Unit have no sense of humor when it comes to open carry here.
Is it illegal? No.
But you will have a fight over it, and they will try to screw you royal.
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April 18th, 2010 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by
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I think if you intend to do it, PM me so I can clear space on my court appearance list, and we can talk about how much it will cost to represent you.
CT, both in local PD's and the State Police Firearm Unit have no sense of humor when it comes to open carry here.
Is it illegal? No.
But you will have a fight over it, and they will try to screw you royal.
And therein lies the rub. Last time I looked, there is nothing in the statutes or in the permit application itself which stipulates that the weapon must be carried concealed. My CT permit says "permit to carry pistols and revolvers", whereas my official permission in AZ is a "concealed weapons permit."
If nothing else, the current flap should serve the purpose of clarifying the requirements, so the common misinterpretation of existing statutes and the "make up the rules as you go" inclination of certain LE agencies become history.
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April 18th, 2010 12:07 PM
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You are right...the statutes are silent on open carry v. concealed; however, the police will hit you for breach of peace, creating a public disturbance, threatening - and if you give the officer the slightest lip, an interfering charge.
When you go to court they will offer you the use of your accelerated rehabilitation program, which is your once in a lifetime "get out of trouble" card...and they will try to dispose of the case as easily as possible for the prosecutor.
If you want to fight it, hire a lawyer...
Don't blame me. I didn't do it.
I didn't start it.
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April 18th, 2010 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by
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And therein lies the rub. Last time I looked, there is nothing in the statutes or in the permit application itself which stipulates that the weapon must be carried concealed. My CT permit says "permit to carry pistols and revolvers", whereas my official permission in AZ is a "concealed weapons permit."
- More power to the people in CT that want to test the OC/CC laws out. James Goldberg was arrested 3 years earlier when a Ruby Tuesday employee spotted a poorly concealed gun. He lost his permit for almost 2 years from that incident. There's no way I'm risking my permit.
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April 18th, 2010 12:17 PM
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lol I am Not planning to open carry just yet. I think I will wait for it to be a little more main stream. (IE: open carry legal on the books,maybe in 15 years).
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April 18th, 2010 12:25 PM
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lol I am Not planning to open carry just yet. I think I will wait for it to be a little more main stream. (IE: open carry legal on the books,maybe in 15 years).
But laws don't say what you can do...they only tell you what you CAN'T do. As MitchellCT pointed out, the statutes don't mention OC...which makes it legal by default.
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April 18th, 2010 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by
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But laws don't say what you can do...they only tell you what you CAN'T do. As MitchellCT pointed out, the statutes don't mention OC...which makes it legal by default.
- You're correct, it is legal. The problem is that it's going to cost you thousands in legal fees to prove you're right. In the meantime, your carry permit will be suspended.
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April 18th, 2010 12:52 PM
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- You're correct, it is legal. The problem is that it's going to cost you thousands in legal fees to prove you're right. In the meantime, your carry permit will be suspended.
But once precedent is set doesn't it allow for a full reinstatement of licensing privileges for those that lost theirs?
If no one is willing to risk something, nothing will ever change.
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April 18th, 2010 01:31 PM
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But once precedent is set doesn't it allow for a full reinstatement of licensing privileges for those that lost theirs?
If no one is willing to risk something, nothing will ever change.
- I agree that someone would have to set the precedent in order for things to change. I'm just not the person that's willing to give up their carry privileges for a few years.
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April 18th, 2010 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by
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- I agree that someone would have to set the precedent in order for things to change. I'm just not the person that's willing to give up their carry privileges for a few years.
Isnt that what Mr. Goldberg just did...in the above article?
A state Superior Court judge dismissed the breach of peace charge police ultimately filed against Goldberg, forcing law enforcement experts to concede that, absent extenuating circumstances, there is nothing in Connecticut law to prohibit licensed gun owners from conducting their lives visibly armed.
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April 18th, 2010 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by
MitchellCT
If you want to fight it, hire a lawyer...
Don't blame me. I didn't do it.
I didn't start it.
I just tell it like it is.
What this situation needs is a media maggot, er, magnet, like Wesley Horton to pursue the issue using Goldberg's case as a vehicle. Give him something to do once Ms Bysiewicz is done with him.
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April 18th, 2010 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by
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You are right...the statutes are silent on open carry v. concealed; however, the police will hit you for breach of peace, creating a public disturbance, threatening - and if you give the officer the slightest lip, an interfering charge.
When you go to court they will offer you the use of your accelerated rehabilitation program, which is your once in a lifetime "get out of trouble" card...and they will try to dispose of the case as easily as possible for the prosecutor.
If you want to fight it, hire a lawyer...
Don't blame me. I didn't do it.
I didn't start it.
I just tell it like it is.
Normally, I agree with what you post, but, the last case of this happening was the James Goldberg case of three years (plus) ago and the charges were thrown out. Unless you have knowledge of something that has never hot the papers, there hasn't been a single instance of this happening since.
In the case last week at one of the malls, the gentleman involved WAS brandishing to a clerk.
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. - Robert A. Heinlein
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April 18th, 2010 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by
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- You're correct, it is legal. The problem is that it's going to cost you thousands in legal fees to prove you're right. In the meantime, your carry permit will be suspended.
Hasn't happened since the Judge threw out the arrest of James Goldberg over three years ago. - not a single instance.
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