Single guys, question about the approach to women
This is a discussion on Single guys, question about the approach to women within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Here in Montana the girl would prob come right up to you without you coming to her and grab your gun by the grip and ...
May 24th, 2010 03:21 PM
May 24th, 2010 10:43 PM
May 25th, 2010 12:32 AM
Umm this i DISagree with completely, not just on the security issues, but I would rather turn off a 100 women, and find the one that is okay or turned on by it, and takes interest in it. (<- that is alot easier than trying to convert them later trust me.)
Originally Posted by Charlie8D
May 25th, 2010 05:35 AM
My sidearms had been a part of my 'ensamble' for quite some time before meeting, and eventually marrying, my wife. Every woman who had anything to do with me, friendships, romantic involvment, whatever, knew from the start, or found out very quickly, that I carried. Most didn't seemed bothered, A few dispised it, and a couple went on to get thier own guns and CCL's.
My carrying was not a big deal, it was just something I did. I never was, or acted, the idiot, treated all respectfully, and did whatever without any 'drama'.
People, including single women, will see your carrying as a part of your 'whole package'. Make it a good, responsable, and fun 'package' and the women will want to be a part of it....or at least not bothered by carrying part of your 'whole package'.
"Just getting a concealed carry permit means you haven't commited a crime yet. CCP holders commit crimes." Daniel Vice, senior attorney for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, quoted on Fox & Friends, 8 Jul, 2008
(Sometimes) "a fight avioded is a fight won." ... claude clay
May 25th, 2010 06:30 AM
That's because jerks are only interested in the next "score". Something to brag to coworkers about on Monday.
Originally Posted by 120mm
Decent guys aren't "keeping away in droves". They're more likely put off by the fact that attractive women, heck, ALL women, can't seem to get enough of the jerks.
The guy at work who used to point out women and tell the other guys "been there, done that" was the same guy every woman in the place seemed to think was just wonderful.
At the same time, we know jerks will keep coming around where they've been successful. And what does that IMPLY about the woman?
Tell her to keep the womanizers and other riff-raff away, at gun-point if need be, and decent guys will start coming around.
May 25th, 2010 05:13 PM
As a new female shooter, I can think back to just under a year ago when I hadn't shot/carried a gun and didn't know anyone who had. If an OCing guy approached me, I would've been okay with it provided two things:
Originally Posted by INccwchris
Many posters have already brought this one up, but smile; be kind, gentle and polite; use your manners;etc.
Am I in an approachable place? Well-lit public place vs. dark parking lot. AND are you not scary looking/acting? Generally clean and well-dressed, not wearing a murder/rape joke t-shirt, not fiddling with your holster, not approaching me from the side or behind and/or following me. If yes, then proceed.
May 25th, 2010 05:32 PM
“What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pike
May 25th, 2010 07:30 PM
Here's the only advice I know...
Be yourself. That's it. Just be yourself.
If they have a problem with the gun... do not proceed any further, move on to the next one.
If you try to be someone you're not to "get a date," it isn't going to work out in the long run.
If, you're the "Gecko .45 type", you'll likely not get many takers but one will come along one day and be all impressed. If you're not a "Gecko .45" type but just carry a gun like you wear a pair of socks, you'll likely find more women who will not have a problem with the gun, but the bottom line is, whoever you are and whatever your personality is, be that person.
Trying to be someone you're not is a "no go" for most relationships.
btw... I would say gglovesguns knows a bit about what she is talking about! Good advice.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
May 25th, 2010 08:00 PM
Originally Posted by Bark'n
Don't believe it... She said, "size DOES matter!"
May 25th, 2010 10:01 PM
IMO you should be yourself. You will find the right girl. In some cases you carrying might run a girl off, but there are some who like the fact that there man carries a gun. I know that I like that my husband carries, first off I feel safe when we are out. Most of the time I OC and he CC. I guess I was lucky, we share alot of the same likes and dislikes. But I am different than most women I guess. Just be patient and be yourself.
May 25th, 2010 10:44 PM
I go by what "Bark'n" says. If a woman can't accept me for who I am, then too bad for her. I am not gonna let some skirt dictate to me that I can't carry a gun. Right now, I don't have to worry about it since I am in a long term relationship with a very supportive and understanding woman.
May 26th, 2010 02:11 AM
There are many things that turn a woman off. One of them is "short man's syndrome". Blaming one's own inadequacies on others (i.e. jerks) is no excuse.
Originally Posted by Lewis128
Oddly enough, I see your point, but think you're wrong. A little self-confidence works wonders. Putting this all on the female shows you lack mindset. And confidence.
Seriously. You can be a nice guy and be attractive to women. Really, you can. But first you need to ditch the victim stance. I think you need a good platonic female friend to walk you through some of this. I know it worked wonders for me.
May 26th, 2010 10:45 AM
+1 for the looking halfway decent as well. not sure what you look like obviously, but it really does help to be halfway well dressed.
i dont mean like metro-, or to wear a suit, but just have on clean clothes that fit you correctly. be showered and shaven (stubble and even beard and such is fine, just have it cleaned up so it looks like it is meant to be that way).
Wo die Notwehr aufhört, fängt der Mord an
(Murder begins where self-defense ends)
May 27th, 2010 05:47 AM
You're making a lot of assumptions about me.
Originally Posted by 120mm
The "been there, done that" guy is an actual guy. I could give you his name if it would make a difference.
My point was that guys like that spend ALL available energy on manipulating women into bed. The women they manipulate become jaded and eventually assume all men are like that.
My ex was like that. She started "waiting for the other shoe to drop" as soon as we got back from the honeymoon. Long story short, that attitude tore us apart.
I'm well aware decent guys can be attractive to women. I have 3 sisters, two of whom married great guys, and a younger brother who's happily married. He's also a great guy.
May 27th, 2010 07:08 AM
Yup to making assumptions. Have to based on the medium of internet forum.
Originally Posted by Lewis128
However, I quit being so concerned about what "bad guys" do. I called it "growing up". You know, since I've become more concerned with what "I" do, I hardly notice the bad guys anymore.
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