This is a discussion on Off-duty LEO in Texas within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by LongRider In response to your challenge I do believe that I did in fact provide verifiable evidence of OC'ing preventing a crime. ...
Retired USAF E-8. Avatar is OldVet from days long gone - 1979. Oh, to be young again...
Paranoia strikes deep, into your heart it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid... "For What It's Worth" Buffalo Springfield
That did happen, the two Mafioso, driving to LA stopped in a small road house, needed some cash!
Pointing the two pistols they carried, told the customers, put your wallets on the table... 1st went the badge case, then the LARGE pistols were shown! They left! Bo one hurt.
One more step and it's on!
Yet here we are. The anti's and wybulldog19 waving it about proudly exclaiming here is an example of someone being targeted because they Open Carried. Forget the FACT that it was a gun store with NO mention of Open Carry but here is the evidence that OC will get you targeted none the less.
I personally do not understand how anti self defense fanatics or volunteer victims process information. Forget that it has never happened forget that there is zero valid verifiable information to support the assumption. If they can imagine it is possible, it must be real. So they believe it and present it as fact using unrelated information to support their belief. Like this robbery story exposes the dangers of OC even though OC has no part in the story and OC is not even mentioned. Just as wybulldog19 imagines OC must have caused someone to have been targeted so it must be true after all he imagined it and here his robbery story proves it.
Personally I prefer to base my decisions on verifiable facts. You of course are free to do as you please.
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Those who would, deny, require permit, license, certification, or authorization for me to bear arms are as vile, dangerous & evil as those who would molest, abuse, assault, rape or murder my family
Texas peace officers are not required by state law to keep their firearms concealed, whether on or off the clock. (Texas peace officers are always on duty, unless legally intoxicated.) Now, their employing agency may well have guidelines on the subject, as does mine; I am required by policy to keep handguns concealed under most circumstances if not in uniform, and am expected to display my official ID, visible to the front, if my weapon has to be displayed. Badge? I don't need to stinkin' badge. Actually, so many impersonators have badges, a badge alone is next to worthless, especially as my PD's badge looks so generic. I don't always bother to carry it.
Anyone who has never before seen Texas peace officers carrying openly while in plainclothes has not spent much time in rural Texas eating establishments. Even in city centers, I have seen Rangers and TABC agents carrying openly; almost invariably, their badge was visible to the front, and a handcuff pouch to the rear. Of course, Rangers have that look about them, making them identifiable from a block away.
Last edited by Rexster; July 1st, 2010 at 02:44 PM. Reason: fixed a chopped-off sentence
Personally, I see some people on here that like to argue and see who knows more than the other guy. Not worth the hard feelings and effort that is put into it. Kinda nice to see our members getting along and having positive attitudes and not challenging someones opinion for the sake of an argument. That said, I ain't gonna open carry. LOL
Easy to forget that Texas is has such restrictive gun laws, because it is so contrary to the image the rest of us have of Texas.