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    Cool gun for snake country, but not practical for CCW...IMHOYMV
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    IMO thats advertising waaaay too much that your carrying.
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    You paid a 200.00 tax as it's a Sawed-off shotgun. If it were an AOW, it would have originally come with a pistol grip and a barrel less than 18 inches.
    NOW, if you take that puppy out in public, you'll need to file a ATF Form 5320.20 and get ATF Approval EVERY TIME you take it out, or you'll be in for big do do (that's what I legally need to do in order to take my machineguns out to shoot them, and your shotgun falls into the catagory too)
    Remember, it falls under the National Firearms Act of 1934. If you have other questions regarding the gun you have, I would suggest contacting the ATF NFA Branch and they'll help set things straight.
    Just passing on some good info, so you don't get it taken away from you.
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    By the time you find a chair to stand on so you can get it to clear the holster...... I'm betting the danger will have passed.

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    You paid a 200.00 tax as it's a Sawed-off shotgun. If it were an AOW, it would have originally come with a pistol grip and a barrel less than 18 inches.
    NOW, if you take that puppy out in public, you'll need to file a ATF Form 5320.20 and get ATF Approval EVERY TIME you take it out, or you'll be in for big do do (that's what I legally need to do in order to take my machineguns out to shoot them, and your shotgun falls into the catagory too)
    Remember, it falls under the National Firearms Act of 1934. If you have other questions regarding the gun you have, I would suggest contacting the ATF NFA Branch and they'll help set things straight.

    Not quite...the form you quoted is for Interstate transport. You only use that if you are transporting the firearms from one state to another.

    Application to Transport Interstate or to Temporarily Export Certain National Firearms Act (NFA) Firearms
    Note the heading.

    You do not need to file paperwork just to take it out and shoot it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zsnake View Post
    WHY? You ask WHY???? 'Cause it's NEAT!

    One of my favorite movies is "El Dorado"....James Cann carried a shorty (with hammers) in this movie...I liked it so much, I went out and bought a hat like his and the gun too.

    At pro gun conventions, I love to say..."Mine's bigger than yours!". LOL

    OLD VET... yep....barrel is 12 inches and grip is 8 inches.
    Oh, don't get me wrong... its plenty cool! In fact, you top the charts in cool points. I just think you could do more damage, faster and more efficiently with a topped off 1911.... you pick the size.
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    Classic TV Western Shows - The Rebel with Nick Adams



    The Ballard of Johnny Yuma: Performed by Johnny Cash.

    Away, away, away rode the rebel, Johnny Yuma.

    Johnny Yuma, was a rebel,
    He roamed, through the west.
    And Johnny Yuma, was a rebel,
    He wandered alone.

    He got fightin' mad,
    This rebel lad,
    He packed his star as he wandered far
    Where the only law was a hook and a draw, the rebel.

    Away, away, away rode the rebel.

    Johnny Yuma, was a rebel,
    He roamed, through the west.
    And Johnny Yuma, was a rebel,
    He wandered alone.

    He searched the land,
    This restless lad,
    He was panther quick and leather tough
    Cause he had figured that he'd been pushed enough, the rebel.

    Away, away, away rode the rebel.
    Johnny Yuma.

    Johnny Yuma, was a rebel,
    He roamed, through the west.
    And Johnny Yuma, the rebel,
    He wandered alone.

    He was fightin' mad,
    This rebel lad,
    With a dream he would hold until his dying breath
    He would search his soul and gamble with death.

    Away, away, away rode the rebel, Johnny Yuma.


    When I was a kid I had a Johnny Yuma doll. He had a sawed off double barrel with a holster rig, just like that one.

    Get yourself a Rebel Kepi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HotGuns View Post
    Not quite...the form you quoted is for Interstate transport. You only use that if you are transporting the firearms from one state to another
    Note the heading.

    You do not need to file paperwork just to take it out and shoot it.
    Better be prepared to show your Form 4 for the gun, especially if you have it in the holster you're showing. Better to be safe than sorry, when asked for your NFA stamp.
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    YFZsandrider....I CC the .45 (Warthog) while I OC this.
    Adds about 20 lbs to my delicate frame.....LOL

    CLASS3NH....I DO carry the paperwork. I don't think I'd like jail at all! Lots of cops want to see it, but no one yet has asked for the paperwork.

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    This is from memory, but I think the defining parameter is the stock. I.e. if the gun was manufactured with a stock, legally the barrel cannot be less than 18" or it falls in the category of Class III.

    Again, memory, if the gun was manufactured without a stock, i.e. a pistol grip, it is a handgun and the barrel can be less than 18" - the Taurus Judge for example.

    If the gun were manufactured with a pistol grip and a barrel less than 18", you cannot replace the pistol grip with a stock or have any kind of shoulder stock attachment. However, again, as I understand this, there are some shoulder stocks that do not actually attach to the gun, but are merely held in place by the grip hand - I think that's legal.

    Then there's the state/local issues.
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    The judge can only be classified as a pistol because it is a .410/45lc, larger gauge shotguns cannot be pistols. The gun in question could only be an AOW if it was made originaly with a pistol grip, or a SBS if it originaly had a full stock. Being as the op stated he paid a $200 stamp on it, it is registered as a SBS not an AOW.

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    Better be prepared to show your Form 4 for the gun, especially if you have it in the holster you're showing. Better to be safe than sorry, when asked for your NFA stamp.
    Always a good idea. I keep a copy of my stuff in the glove compartment.

    Technically, you are supposed to have it close by anytime your NFA toys out to play with.
    You know what though? Most cops dont have a clue about this stuff. Most think they are automatically illegal and most have never seen the paperwork and wouldnt know what they were looking at. I have had to correct several of them over the years. Even among the various LEO agencies, there is always misunderstanding and confusion. One some things you can even get different answers from different ATF agents.

    I've got the book of regs, the Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide from the US DOJ. Thats what I use when the conversations start to get wild.
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    Also, your holster is doing a crappy job of covering that trigger...

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    Now, that's a hog leg. Looks like something Doc Holiday would carry on an invite to the OK Corral.
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    I like it.

    It may not be the greatest thing for carry, but no one can deny that two simultaneous loads of buckshot would take care of any threat in North America, whether it be two legged or four legged.

    A couple dozen pellets of .32 caliber 00 buck screaming their way towards you at you all at once aint nothing to sneeze at.

    I actually thought of getting a Serbu Super Shorty once, just to play with.
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