Gun ban lifted at Arts, Beats & Eats

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    Gun ban lifted at Arts, Beats & Eats

    I don't plan on attending the event (not that there is anything wrong with it) and I don't OC much anyhow (not that there is anything wrong with it). I have not seen this posted (maybe I missed it).

    Royal Oak yields to state law, OKs carrying in plain sight
    The Detroit News
    Royal Oak -- Coming to Royal Oak this Labor Day weekend: The city's first Arts, Beats & Eats festival -- and the first one allowing open-carry guns.

    Bowing to pressure to conform to state law, the City Commission on Monday night struck down a gun ban in the festival contract to allow holstered guns in plain sight at the event Sept. 3-6.

    "The law is the law," said Mayor Jim Ellison. "I don't agree with it, but we have the right to change that law so those gray issues are gone," he added, referring to modifying laws that allow guns in public.

    Not to be undone by open-carry advocates, city officials passed a resolution calling on state legislators to amend a law so local government can enact ordinances making public buildings gun-free zones.

    That didn't ruin the win for gun advocates Monday night.

    "The fact that the city recognized the law and supported the hundreds of thousands of people who carry firearms every day is a huge victory," said Scott Webb, regional coordinator for Michigan Open Carry Inc.

    The commission and open-carry proponents had locked heads for weeks over a clause in the Ford Arts, Beats & Eats festival contract that prohibited guns at the Labor Day mainstay.

    Proponents say state law and the Second Amendment allow a person who is licensed to carry a firearm, holstered and in plain sight.

    "It's been a complex issue," said Jon Witz, the festival's organizer, but he said he supported the commission's decision.

    "We don't anticipate any incidents" at the festival, Witz said.

    Some residents and festival supporters balked at the idea of guns at a family-friendly venue, one saying it "has turned the city into a circus."

    "It doesn't seem like this is the place for that," said Tom Krell, who attended the meeting. "Why do you need to bear arms at an event where families go to have a good time?"

    Recent campaigns by gun owners have pushed the issue into the public forum. In March, advocates strapped guns in their holsters and headed to local Starbucks to test state laws. Blanching at being the center of the gun debate, the coffee chain said that it was sticking to its policy of letting customers carry guns where it's legal. Businesses can choose to ban guns from their premises.

    Rick Ector, the owner and chief firearms instructor at Rick's Firearm Academy of Detroit, said the issue is grabbing headlines because more people are carrying guns once they learn they are allowed to.

    "A lot of people think that it was never legal to carry a handgun out in the open," said the 42-year-old from Detroit. "But it's legal because it was never illegal, and now you're seeing a lot more people do it."

    Forty-three states, including Michigan, allow open-carry practice. State law does not specifically forbid carrying a pistol in plain sight -- it just doesn't have a prohibition on the books.

    Provisions that allow open carry in the state ban people, except police officers and security personnel, and concealed weapon license holders, from openly carrying firearms in banks, churches, courts, theaters, sports arenas, day care centers and hospitals.

    Carriers also can't bring guns into bars or establishments with liquor licenses unless they get permission from the owner first.

    Associated Press contributed.
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