Big R in Great Falls, MT

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    Big R in Great Falls, MT

    Only the second place where it has happened in my life, but I got asked to leave another place of business because I was carrying a "loaded gun in plain sight" where others could see it. I hate Political Correctness!!
    I walked from the front door to the gun counter and was asked by one of the people working behind the gun counter: "Sir, is that loaded?" He was referring to the S&W M&P .45 on my hip in plain sight. I told him it wouldn't do me any good if it wasn't. He then proceeded to tell me that OC wasn't allowed in their store, but CC was. He said that since they have live ammunition on the shelves they didn't feel it safe (for some reason or another) to have people OC'ing in their establishment and referenced the sign on the front door. "Please check firearms in at front counter and wait for escort to rear." I thought, and most people I've talked to since then felt the same way, that sign was referring to those coming in to have their firearm serviced or to sell it in the store. The store manager told me if it was loaded I would have to leave. I politely obliged and told him I'd be happy to take my money elsewhere.

    I guess I'm just of the mindset that something along those lines almost falls under the category of discrimination. I don't agree with it but oh-well. I don't try to be politically correct but if they want to then it's fine by me. Seems to me they like it better when they can't see it rather than when they can. I went into multiple stores in Great Falls that day and was approached by several people who thought it was interesting that I was carrying, but never had any negative experience until I went into Big R.
    The store manager and the employee seemed kinda offended that I wouldn't remove the ammunition from my firearm. As mentioned above, they said since I had it I had to be escorted from the front desk to the gun counter. I told them that the gun counter wasn't my only stop in there and had intended to do other shopping but I could do it somewhere else. We went in with the intention of finding a purse for my fiance to carry her new .38 in but we ended up getting one somewhere else.
    Guess it's another place in the state that won't see any of my money. Some might remember the letter I wrote to the Manager of Town Pump when I was asked to leave there. I didn't figure I'd waste my time with that kind of crap in Big R since I was just visiting town. If I lived in Great Falls it would be a different story though...

    Just thought I'd say something about it. Have fun and keep carrying, I know I will!!!
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    No gun, then no money...sounds pretty clear to me. Someday they'll catch on.
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    it still amazes me that even some of our kind dont realize what they are doing to us and the gun population! and that they dont realize that if a criminal is going to do somthing in their store they will have it hid and not in plan sight until they do what they are going to do!! and they more then likely are not going to bring their gun in load it up with the shops ammo and shoot the place up! i am sure they will be locked and loaded when they walk through the door!! i just dont understand people sometimes!! stay safe , later
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    Maybe you should contact their corporate office. The locals may not like the policy but they may be the ones saying its the only place in town so they have no other place to go. By visiting it shows the corporate office you have the ability to go wherever you want in order to spend your money. It should also show them that your money should spend there as easily as somewhere else but isn't. Emphasize that they lost at least one sale that day and how many others have they lost because of the airhead policy.

    Also I know nothing of the area but most locals everywhere prefer to shop where it is most convenient to them. This place may be convenient to some who think there is no other place for them to go so they don't want to rock the boat causing the boat to seek another harbor.

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    You know, at first I had resorted myself to not writing any kind of a letter since there were other stores in town that sold the same thing to choose from but after hearing an advertisement on the radio saying they support our troops and what America stands for I had to call bulls#!+ on that and have now decided to write the letter. It upsets me when they act so damned hypocritical. I was of the assumption that if we support our troops then we support what they're fighting for?! To the best of my knowledge, I thought they were fighting to preserve our freedoms and the American way of life.
    I didn't know the Constitution and the Bill of Rights was like a Salad Bar where we get to pick and choose what we want and don't want. I have always thought that it was all or nothing when it comes to supporting our way of life. I've only written one other letter along these lines but I think I remember how to do it well enough to do it again!! Any input would help though.

    Thanks for the comments already!
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    You might try and understand why they brought forth that policy instead of getting upset at the shops position on carrying. There is probably a good reason but you were more offended than understanding about your carry and reacted negatively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redfish443 View Post
    You might try and understand why they brought forth that policy instead of getting upset at the shops position on carrying. There is probably a good reason but you were more offended than understanding about your carry and reacted negatively.
    CC is fine but OC is not. That means they would rather not see it, or rather other folks not see it. It's not a safety issue, since CC'd guns are fine. So, if they want to sell guns, and want people to see their guns, but not customers guns, I think they need to be called on it. I can understand no firearms at all better than I can CC ok but OC is not.

    ecorrigan, keep the letter concise and to the point. You want them to finish it before they get bored and throw it in the trash. Less than a page. Find a couple strong points to make, even though you will have to leave some stuff out. Business letters need to be short, sweet, and to the point. Good luck. I would have done, and have done, the same thing.
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    I used to live in great falls, and I'm somewhat surprised they'd have an attitude like that at a ranch and home store like that - however at least they don't ban guns completely. I guess my feeling is that I wouldn't get really upset about it (the OC part) but let the owner know how you feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefjason View Post
    CC is fine but OC is not. That means they would rather not see it, or rather other folks not see it. It's not a safety issue, since CC'd guns are fine. So, if they want to sell guns, and want people to see their guns, but not customers guns, I think they need to be called on it. I can understand no firearms at all better than I can CC ok but OC is not.

    ecorrigan, keep the letter concise and to the point. You want them to finish it before they get bored and throw it in the trash. Less than a page. Find a couple strong points to make, even though you will have to leave some stuff out. Business letters need to be short, sweet, and to the point. Good luck. I would have done, and have done, the same thing.
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