Tampa Fox 13 News - Open carry movement comes to Florida

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    Tampa Fox 13 News - Open carry movement comes to Florida

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    TAMPA - Imagine a place where everyone walks around wearing a side-arm. It's not the old west, it's modern day America, if one group gets its way.

    They believe it's their constitutional right to openly carry a gun. They're bucking the system all across the nation -- a system they say robs them of their 2nd amendment, constitutional right to openly carry a gun, like Raul DeJesus does.

    DeJesus says they might not agree with it, but the law is on his side.
    "And these are the statutes. If I get stopped by a police officer, I can show him this," he says.

    By Florida statute, you're allowed to carry a loaded gun while you're legally engaged in, or going to or from, certain outdoor activities.
    "So am I right to assume that the only way you're legally carrying your open weapon is that you're fishing?" we asked him.
    "Correct. Fishing, hunting or camping, in the state of Florida," he responds.

    . . .
    The open carry movement has grown from grass-roots to a full-on lobbying group. Right now, 43 states have some form of law allowing gun owners to openly carry their fire arms.
    I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is having.

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    We are much closer to OC then we have ever been before. Our new Gov as stated that he would support an OC bill...it's coming.
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    I still have to express some concern about this, as I read some other posters in another thread. Open carry does bring the matter of personal firearms to the forefront, literally putting them in everyone's face. With concealed carry, those that prefer not to think about guns don't have to, but with open carry everyone has to face the fact that people carry guns. This could breed some ridiculous law making, especially within the Florida House which is certainly not known for it's common sense approach to law-making, that could actually end up restricting us more than current concealed carry law.
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    I'm not so sure a "new" governor is the reason. Gov. and former State Att. Gen. Crist has been very supportive of 2A, and making local municipalities adhere to state law and not locally enacted ordinances. It's the legislature that has to pass any changes in OC and forward it to the Gov. to be signed in to law. Therein lies the holdup.
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    I would love to see the author of that drivel (article) come to Virginia where its been legal to open carry since the colonial days. He would certainly get an education. Its legal here and not everyone does it. We allow a person to choose. You can carry openly with no permit or concealed with a permit or the proper badge (law enforcement not CCW badge). In Virginia people are trusted until they prove themselves otherwise.

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    I still think that our reliance on tourism, especially here in Orlando, is going to snag this at least somewhat. I see legally-enforceable gun buster signs coming with any OC bill.

    IMHO, I'd like to see concealed carry on campus much more than OC. From a purely practical perspective, OC doesn't get you anything more than existing CC does now. However, campus carry would allow those who are currently unable to defend themselves on campus to do so. There is significantly more to be gained there.

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    Here is the big benefit to OC as it effects me. I am not going to OC, I have no need to and I don't think it is a good idea, for me. However, it does mean that I can now be less concerned about accidental reveal, which would be a huge weight off my mind when I do CC.

    But the article, as written, sounds very anti... I just don't like fox news... not one little bit.
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    There is no brandishing clause in Florida law. You have to be clearly displaying a weapon with criminal intent to get any real legal flak. An accidental reveal of a CCW is nothing to worry about in FL, aside from the social consequences.

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    Congrats to yall in Florida! OC is a great thing and when it passes in FL, go out and do it. The freedom feels great!
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    Florida is on my list of potential states to move to when I can finally escape the Socialist Republic of New Jersey in a couple years. I look at several factors, climate, typical pay in my field, taxes/hidden taxes, OC/CC, among others. There are several states higher on my list, not for climate or taxes but as they allow both OC and CC. If Florida allows OC, they'll move up on my list of places to live.

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    I hope FL passes OC simply because it would make carrying more comfortable for my expansive physique. I always wear my shirts untucked (always have before CCing), and OC would allow me to wear a more comfortable belt holster and no be so concerned about being "exposed." With my CWFL, it would matter if my firearm was concealed or not.
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    I would LOVE the option to OC here. I spend my days driving around to foreclosed houses and my dress is business casual so once my permit comes, pocket carrying a little .380 is going to be my only real option. It would be great if I could openly carry my SR9c instead of just keeping it in my car like I do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmacque View Post
    I still have to express some concern about this, as I read some other posters in another thread. Open carry does bring the matter of personal firearms to the forefront, literally putting them in everyone's face. With concealed carry, those that prefer not to think about guns don't have to, but with open carry everyone has to face the fact that people carry guns. This could breed some ridiculous law making, especially within the Florida House which is certainly not known for it's common sense approach to law-making, that could actually end up restricting us more than current concealed carry law.
    Experience with other states has shown that this is not a problem. I wouldn't worry about it.
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    I'd love to see Florida get it to take the heat off of California making a try to take it away.

    I suspect that if a state like Florida can get it it will take the pressure off by giving it's support here the ammunition (no pun intended) to fight it's opposition.

    I'm pulling for you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Knight View Post
    I would love to see the author of that drivel (article) come to Virginia where its been legal to open carry since the colonial days. He would certainly get an education. Its legal here and not everyone does it. We allow a person to choose. You can carry openly with no permit or concealed with a permit or the proper badge (law enforcement not CCW badge). In Virginia people are trusted until they prove themselves otherwise.
    Yes, one government's attempt to remove that right caused quite a stir around these parts:

    Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775:

    They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house?
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