University of Utah suspends 2 officers for leaking open carry memo.

University of Utah suspends 2 officers for leaking open carry memo.

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    University of Utah suspends 2 officers for leaking open carry memo.

    I understand that the crowd here at DC may not be too sympathetic of this issue, but keep in mind that there are more underlying issues other than open carry on campus.

    Fact. Open carry is not illegal at the University of Utah, and they know this. HOWEVER, they have gone to great lengths to try to keep people from doing so, and were using "secret rules" to enforce their opinion.

    How can one obey an unlawful rule if it is a secret? Anywho...

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    Time to replace the trash with responsible people. LEO should know better and most do.
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    Secret laws, secret procedures... doesn't sound like America to me.
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    The secret policies were leaked, soooo.... who has a copy? Anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpwing View Post
    The secret policies were leaked, soooo.... who has a copy? Anyone?
    I've been looking. Haven't found it yet.

    The gist was that if you were open carrying on campus and you had a CCW (CCW is required by law on Utah campuses), the enforcer would ask you to conceal. If you refused, you were escorted from campus. Repeat offenders would be arrested.
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    http://www.utahopencarry.com/wp-cont...licy_09-10.pdf (2010 policy)

    http://www.utahopencarry.com/wp-cont...licy_09-09.pdf (2009 policy)

    These are previously leaked ones.

    It seems that these presidents are more concerned that people "feel safe" than they are that they are safe. These words were infamously spoken by the VT president before the tragedy. I've heard both the UofU president and the UVU president say the same thing since.

    Here is the latest one: http://local.sltrib.com/upload/2011/..._open_cary.pdf
    Last edited by Coder; January 6th, 2011 at 10:26 PM. Reason: Found the latest link
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    Time to put the U president and his security chief on double secret probation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    Time to put the U president and his security chief on double secret probation.
    Very nice. But it was usually the president putting us on..., nevermind.
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    Reminds me of the Monty Python bit

    "He said I had transgressed the unwritten law"

    "What law was that?"

    "I don't know-its not written down..."
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    Is it the function of colleges to educate or brainwash? I am getting the feeling that "Higher Education" is an oxymoron unless you are talking about smoking dope in a class room
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    This ain't over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1953 View Post
    This ain't over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
    Clearly a product of our higher education system - JK.
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    I have followed this story. Secret rules do not sound like the kind of thing that was once permissible in the USA. Not a good sign.

    Does anyone know if this college is of the leftist or conservative variety? I would bet it tends to lean left....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ep1953 View Post
    This ain't over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
    Thats a joke right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukalmighty View Post
    Thats a joke right?
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