This is a discussion on Open Carry "works". within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; I open carrry pretty much every where I go. That certainly is true at home and in the neighborhood. All my neighbors know I carry ...
I open carrry pretty much every where I go. That certainly is true at home and in the neighborhood. All my neighbors know I carry and no one bats an eye anymore. This is a little story that I shared on another board.
I have been taking walks in the evening after putting my girls to bed. It is usually around 10 pm or so. I just walk around the neighborhood, taking in the tornado damage (Minneapolis, MN) and now, the repairs that are ongoing. I seldom see people out, other than those sitting on their stoop or in the yard, and even those are few and far between at that hour.
Tonight I was out walking a bit later than normal so I was walking in the street rather than the sidewalk to avoid the spider webs that hang from the trees. As I was walking, I noticed a couple of gentleman walking toward me about 2 blocks away. I was on the right side of the street and they were on the left side and on the sidewalk. As we neared each other, they moved into the street. Of course, my interest in their movements was already at a high level, this prompted condition dark orange. I neared the corner first, which was illuminated, and began to turn to the right, thus exposing my carried pistol, black against a white shirt. They had further moved in my direction when one of them stopped and stopped his buddy and said, he thought quietly, "Oh ****, man, thats the dude who carries a pistol all the time.” The other guy turned his head and said something I could not understand. Then they both looked at me.
They were about 30 yards away now, so I stopped just behind a parked car and said in a somewhat authoritative voice, "You are correct. I am the dude who always carries a pistol. You gentleman have a good night and stay out of trouble." Then turned and walked home. They stood there for a minute and then walked the opposite way.
It really was a lovely night for a walk.
"The gun is the great equalizer... For it is the gun, that allows the meek to repel the monsters; Whom are bigger, stronger and without conscience, prey on those who without one, would surely perish."
I took meds once that had that effect. The infection went away and so did the dark orange.
Years ago (too many), when I got my first CCW, after work I would stop at the ATM in a sort of seedy part of town because it was slightly more convenient than the safer ATM near my house. I figured "What the heck", I've got fire power now. I was new to the CCW arena and I felt a sense of power. Shortly thereafter I was reading some advice on one of the sites (may have been the old packin.org), from an older, wiser gentleman that said "Don't go to places or do things with your firearm that you wouldn't do if you weren't armed". That advice got me thinking about the reasons I carried in the first place. I realized that there is a fine line between wanting to be prepared and wanting to feel powerful.
I guess what I'm saying is....would you take a stroll around your neighborhood after 10pm and engage a couple of shady looking strangers if you weren't armed?
I don't know how old you are or how long you've been carrying, I'm just saying......I've kind of been there and done that and know now that it wasn't one of the smartest things I've ever done!
To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will.
I wish I could open carry in Texas. I sort of ran into a similar situation last night. I needed to go to Wal-Mart but I needed to mow the lawn. When I got done mowing, I was exhausted (it was 102 degrees yesterday) and so I had to take a shower and rest up for a little while. When I finally got to the store, it was much later than I usually go to the store. When I was pushing my shopping cart out to my car, I noticed a rather thuggy looking guy standing between two SUV's sort of watching people go by. I couldn't figure out exactly what his motive was. He didn't see me at first because he was watching people go the other direction. I finally made eye contact with him and as soon as he realized I was looking at him, he looked away to pretend that he did not see me, then put his hands in his pocket and started pacing real non-nonchalantly. I suspect he was up to something, but I had no real evidence so just kept walking. It would have been nice to have my gun visible to him. It might have made him re-consider if he was planning to commit some crimes that night, whether it be breaking into some cars, or robbing somebody.Yes, I've had to stop myself many times. For example, when there is some punk, usually (but not always) of African-American decent, driving through a parking lot with his stereo deafening everyone in the parking lot with lyrics that should be rated R or even X, sometimes even causing car alarms to go off due to the vibration - I have been very tempted to give those people a piece of my mind. After all, if it wasn't obvious to them that their behavior is not considered cool by 99% of the population, maybe if more people protested about it, they'd be more considerate? But I also realize these type of people are likely to become aggressive in their response. So despite having my firearm, I still have to bite my lip and hope a police officer comes by and tickets them.That advice got me thinking about the reasons I carried in the first place. I realized that there is a fine line between wanting to be prepared and wanting to feel powerful.
On the other hand - sometimes I wish citizens in general would be more aggressive towards crime. Today if somebody sees somebody breaking into a car, then tend to walk the other way and pretend they didn't see it. Nobody wants to "get involved." I'm guilty of it too. Usually my goal is to go to the store, get what I need, and get home in one piece. Usually I'm tired and I don't feel like messing with it. If I can avoid a confrontation, I will. But unfortunately, this attitude is what has allowed society to get as low as it has.
Proverbs 27:12 says: “The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.”
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Perhaps--just perhaps--instead of two potential BGs realizing they may be taking on the wrong victim, maybe it was just two guys thinking they'd run into the neighborhood weirdo who packs a gun everywhere he goes. Could that be the other side of the coin?
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Agree with Old Vet. My firearm is the last thing on my mind, and the very last choice for use in a defensive scenario where no other weapon has been introduced.
As of recently, my fists still speak well on my behalf when called upon.
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I can tell already that this thread is going to be extremely beneficial to DefensiveCarry.com.
I'm certainly glad one of their blind side buddies didn't get the drop on you so they could add to their gun collection. I'm sure you know the MN permit allows you to carry a long gun in public, too. I suppose if I'm going to OC in Murderapolis, it'll be with my AR10 or slug shottie. Double bandoliers ought to pick up the street light better. It's nice you've aclimated the neighbors, and they feel comfortable with OC, but I would prolly avoid the north side, OC or CC.
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Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito.
("Do not give in to evil but proceed ever more boldly against it.")
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