Thanks for all the replies, great info!
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Thanks for all the replies, great info!
Very intresting stuff from our northern neighbour. Good Job on the map and research.
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Welcome to the forum biglos, it's great to have you on the forum. It's always interesting to hear how the other side lives.
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Iowa has no castle doctrine or stand your ground doctrine per say but current law is quite reasonable so long as you only associate with randomly reasonable people.
CHAPTER 704 FORCE == REASONABLE OR DEADLY == DEFENSES
We as in the Iowa Firearms Coalition along with the NRA are working on language more in line with Stand your ground.
hehe so next time someone asks me if I live in a "Red or Blue" state I get to say neither. I live in a green state. :)
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NC is semi accurate. We have, at best, a partial CD. That will change on 12-1-11. We'll have a CD as good as anyone, and civil immunity.
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BTW... Welcome Aboard biglos. Glad to have you here!
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Hey Guantes: Methinks your somewhat "tongue in cheek" redundancy question was answered clearly by at least 2 repliers. Stating the fact front and center on "stand your ground" may have an element of redundancy but it does make it very clear without any misunderstanding. Not only are we a "red state" per the map, here in SC, but all recent case law has the full weight of the legal system on the side of the defender and not on the side of the perp. As far as Castle Doctrine is concerned, God help the perp who chooses home breakins and burglary as his profession of choice--in SC, you get a personal visit from the solicitor/prosecutor who thanks you for lessening their case load. You also get a chance to read in the paper about the perp's family and what a "good boy" he WAS.
When it comes to "stand your ground", we are in a very different scenario. Personally, I believe in "situational awareness" a heck of a lot more than "stand your ground". If I am not there, I will not have to stand my ground. I also believe in getting away from everything and anything that looks like it will end up in a "stand your ground" moment. As told to me by my CCWP instructor--if a situation does come about, I will retreat as best I can and will be yelling at the top of my lungs all the time (witnesses). Personally, I am 69 years old and have never come close to anything remotely resembling such a situation--I will live where I live, do what I do, and always follow my instincts and awareness--always a what if but I do not see stand your ground as being something that I should really be spending time thinking about other than being aware of where I am at all times and what my alternatives are as related to situational awareness where the scenario has a element of what if (this is why I read these forums).
Ed "spendell" wouldn't sign the castle doctrine into law......typical democrat.......Corbett promised to sign it into law, which he did.
There was very little "tongue in cheek" in my question.
Re my question as to the redundancy of "Stand Your Ground" statutes if there is no requirement of retreat, several good points were made by others relative to re-affirmation and civil protection.
In Idaho we have what I would call an unwritten "stand your ground" with legal/civil protection.
No requirement to retreat.
Thus, I believe the benefits from a separate "Stand Your Ground" statute would be minimal.
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Welcome to the forum. This is one map where I'm glad Texas isn't a red state.
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