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I see your point, but it's not as if the OP started yelling at her (at least it didn't seem that way). I do try to avoid conflict myself generally but I can't fault him for speaking up. If it was me I probably would of said to not involve me in her family disputes and walked away.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmhawth
I still understand completely Jbum. My point was, its better to just smile and go about your business then look for a confrontation. Of course if someone wants to have a conversation, thats a different story. I would just let the sly comments, dirty looks etc. just roll off.
Say what you like, but understand you are mischaracterizing the position of many of those with whom you take exception.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum
I think I offer this disclaimer every time I wade into the OC/CC debate. It doesn't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike1956
Care to elaborate either you are for or againstQuote:
Originally Posted by Mike1956
Another black-and-white, falsely limiting mischaracterization.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum
Your stance is black and white you say OC brings on trouble is that not black and white? Are you for or against open carry as a 2A right just answer the question and we are done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike1956
For or against has never been an issue for me. I said that OC elicits consequences not experienced by those who don't do it. True, or not true?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum
Yes that is true but you need not tell those of us who do OC on a regular basis that we have consequences we live it daily. We take those opportunities when someone notices that we are carrying (very rare) to teach them that we are not bad people and that they should consider CCW. You on the other hand want to condone us for taking advantage of that opportunity and chastising us for getting caught with a firearm by saying you get it cause you ask for it in a nut shell. If you don't like open carry please don't come on the OC form and blast us for what we do those of us who do OC are VERY aware of what goes on and are trying to change the mindset of the public. If you believe that CC is the best for you then all the best as I CC from time to time as well. But please do not ever say you deserve what you get when you OC because when the firearms community gets that ingrained in their heads we will loose more than we have ever gained.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike1956
As you strive to change mindset, understand that change is not always for the better. For example, we have a brand new "no guns allowed" sign in one of my favorite restaurants, courtesy of a self-styled open carry effort to educate the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum
Yeah mike you are right all us OC people cause all the problems. With friends like you we don't need enemies. I'll bet you will still go back there to eat. You like 2A lite and that is good for you I Like 2A +P. I am very sorry my rights as a United States citizen cost you a nice cup of soup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike1956
Its not being noticed that is the problem. The problem comes when those who notice decide to make an issue of it.
I wonder how those who feel free to comment to or about others in public would feel if the tables were turned?
Hi lady, thats one rude loudmouth kid you got there. By the way I noticed your pretty fat have you tried wearing something that conceals it a bit better?
Shouldn't fat people expect to be criticized? What about folks that talk funny. What about folks that cannot afford fancy clothes?
Or, should we expect people to have better manners in public. Keep it to yourself. Is that even taught anymore?
Michael
Think I just shed a tear!Quote:
Originally Posted by mlr1m
That wouldn't show much "tolerance" now would it? :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by mlr1m
I hope you aren't this adversarial and confrontational with those you encounter in person during your missions of constitutional enthusiasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbum