Post By RETSUPT99
January 31st, 2012 03:58 PM
Michigan OC Question
I am new to the OC/CPL discussion and do not have a CPL as of yet (Take the course on Feb 11th), but I have been around firearms for years (including military). I have a question regarding Michigan OC law & Vehicle transport.
I am probably misreading the law in Michigan, but I believe there are specific times you can transport your weapon. They are basically like to & from ranges, cleaning/repair, moving etc.
So if that is the case, what legal ramifications are there if someone has their weapon stored properly in their vehicle and they are going to the park or something (not to shoot, but plan on open carrying), or to a restaurant that doesn't serve alcohol etc., and is pulled over. Wouldn't this be an issue?
I am curious as I would like to support open carry, but also do not want to create issues for me getting a CPL just because I am transporting a firearm so I can open carry it.
Thanks in advance.
January 31st, 2012 04:23 PM
In Michigan without a CPL you can have have a loaded weapon in the car period. For open carry you would have to drive to where you are going, uncase the weapon and then carry it openly.
January 31st, 2012 06:55 PM
I think you mean..."you cannot"...
Originally Posted by skysoldier29
Last edited by RETSUPT99; January 31st, 2012 at 08:45 PM.
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January 31st, 2012 08:38 PM
Here is the website for Mi opencarry... Michigan Open Carry, Inc. | Nothing to hide!
Here is my nephews page here at DC.
He is very active with opencarry in MI.
Please PM him with Questions and concerns.
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February 1st, 2012 12:13 PM
Thanks for the info. I know it is illegal to conceal or carry a loaded weapon in Michigan. I think I was able to get the answer. My concern was if it was legal to open carry, yet, transporting a firearm was illegal, how do people go from point A to point B, but it looks like the "to" and "from" law was expanded. Thanks again for the info.
February 1st, 2012 07:24 PM
750.231a Exceptions to MCL 750.227(2); definitions.
(1) Subsection (2) of section 227 does not apply to any of the following:
(a) To a person holding a valid license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by his or her state of residence except where the pistol is carried in nonconformance with a restriction appearing on the license.
(b) To the regular and ordinary transportation of pistols as merchandise by an authorized agent of a person licensed to manufacture firearms.
(c) To a person carrying an antique firearm as defined in subsection (2), completely unloaded in a closed case or container designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of a vehicle.
(d) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in the trunk of the vehicle.
(e) To a person while transporting a pistol for a lawful purpose that is licensed by the owner or occupant of the motor vehicle in compliance with section 2 of 1927 PA 372, MCL 28.422, and the pistol is unloaded in a closed case designed for the storage of firearms in a vehicle that does not have a trunk and is not readily accessible to the occupants of the vehicle.
(2) As used in this section:
(a) "Antique firearm" means either of the following:
(i) A firearm not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898, including a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system or replica of such a firearm, whether actually manufactured before or after 1898.
(ii) A firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.
(b) "Lawful purpose" includes the following:
(i) While en route to or from a hunting or target shooting area.
(ii) While transporting a pistol en route to or from his or her home or place of business and place of repair.
(iii) While moving goods from 1 place of abode or business to another place of abode or business.
(iv) While transporting a licensed pistol en route to or from a law enforcement agency or for the purpose of having a law enforcement official take possession of the weapon.
(v) While en route to or from his or her abode or place of business and a gun show or places of purchase or sale.
(vi) While en route to or from his or her abode to a public shooting facility or public land where discharge of firearms is permitted by law, rule, regulation, or local ordinance.
(vii) While en route to or from his or her abode to a private property location where the pistol is to be used as is permitted by law, rule, regulation, or local ordinance.
this last section I have highlighted should cover you. Thanks Oneshot.
February 2nd, 2012 12:36 AM
Here's another good source related to MI gun laws: MSP - Firearms
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