This is a discussion on Florida open carrier stopped by police (vid) within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Bubbiesdad AMEN! That's exactly what I was talking about. I think it best to obey them on the first command, but that's ...
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The dimwit needs to get a job or a new hobby........
To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will.
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I agree with the overwhelming majority of the sentiment here. I felt compelled to leave a comment on his video expressing my distaste to what he decided to do. He was poking the hornet's nest and he was pretty fortunate he got such a reasonable response from the officer. The officer was calm, was reasonable with his requests, and only seemed to get agitated when the subject refused to comply with a lawful order to stay at the front of his cruiser.
We can't forget that under Florida law police officers to have the right to make a potentially dangerous situation safe. Even for a concealed carry traffic stop if the officer discovers, or you volunteer, that you have a weapon they do have the right to take it from you and secure it in their cruiser for the remainder of the traffic stop. He (the officer) was just asking for some distance between the subject and himself which I completely understand. I would never have dreamed to argue that point... it's a good way to get drawn on or tasered or whatever.
I know what the subject was trying to do but it was just in poor taste. We need to let the GOA, NRA, and Florida Carry lobby for rights in a Legislative way not fight things on YouTube.
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DimWit....armed and dangerous...
Well, police are supposed to know the law in order to enforce it. And, we have these little things called amendments to the Constituion that make up what we like to call a Bill of Rights. And, there is one of my personal favorites, the 14th amenment that applied the 4th to local governments. Police should know that you are NOT required to talk to them or to identify yourself. They are not supposed to bother you unless they can demonstrate a reasonable suspicion that you have broken a law. Carrying open while holding your fishing pole by a fishing pier hardly qualifies as resonable suspicion...
Of course, I suppose I could be a fascist in disguise. Where are the true conservatives and libertarians in this thread?
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I'm still curious to know if he didn't have a fishing license while OC & fishing would he have faced additional charges such as fishing without a license while armed. Might have mellowed him out a bit.
The fisherman reminds me of Rosa Parks. Sometimes freedom fighters have to challenge the system to change it and to ensure it is working poperly. In this case the young freedom loving man had a cop check him out for committing a legal act. I thought freedom loving gun owners would want to ensure all governments, local all the way to federal, would want our rights respected and the ability to ezerise our rights without harassment.
Just trying to play devils advocate. But Rosa Parks was chosen to create a scene.
As law-abiding citizens hoping to educate the public, we have a responsibility to work with law enforcement, rather than against them. Perhaps the cop technically had no right to run a check on the guy; antagonizing him serves no purpose other than satiate the young man's desire for a fight. I understand. I was a young anti-government hot-head once. I'm still anti-government, but I at least realize that these sorts of tactics get you nowhere.
He has certainly not made life in Venice any easier for carriers, open or concealed.
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"Rosa Parks" that dude is not.
When the officer saw him, he was not fishing and had no fishing equipment...so it was reasonable to suspect he was breaking a law by open carrying in Florida. When they went down on the pier, he was not in the act of fishing either. He directed them to a pole some ways down the pier and told them it was his.
I'm all for protecting our rights, and I go abuot doing that in a positive manner. One way to get more people thinking negatively about gun owners overall is to act like a goober and peeve off the police.
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