Oklahoma OC Legislation: Wall Street Journal Article

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    Post Oklahoma OC Legislation: Wall Street Journal Article

    Excerpts from the WSJ today:

    Gun Show: Open Carry Gains Ground - WSJ.com

    TULSA, Okla.—Gun owners in this state could walk down the street openly packing their pistols under legislation passed by lawmakers that would make Oklahoma the first state in seven years to allow residents to openly display their handguns in public. Advocates of "open carry" laws have been pushing for several years to make it legal for gun owners to display their handguns in public places, arguing the practice would increase public safety and is protected under the Second Amendment.
    Wouldn't a bunch of states benefit from this style of Governor:

    .......this is supported by Republican Gov. Mary Fallin...........
    Congratulations, Oklahoma!

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    Article qotes our own Dave Workman, "Fourteen states have laws allowing handgun owners to openly display their weapons. Advocates say the practice is legal in 29 states that are silent on the issue, according to OpenCarry.org, a gun-rights organization. 'Just because it is not in vogue to openly carry doesn't mean that it is improper or illegal,' said Dave Workman, editor of TheGunMag.com." Great publicity.
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    live just minutes away from Ok and hoping it will pass so i can try to see the difference between CC and OC..readn many forums and even if allowed to OC I think I like the advantage my tool being a secret...but like I said would like to try it once..
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    The Legislature passed a great Bill in both houses a couple years ago knowing it would be vetoed by the Governor in office at the time. Now with a new Governor who says that she would have signed the same Bill that was vetoed by the previous office holder the Legislators find themselves in a bind. They had no intention of seeing a Bill passed so now instead of offering up the same Bill they passed before that the new Governor says she would have signed, they find themselves having to figure other ways to either kill it or make it as useless as possible.

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    It has passed both house and senate. Now all we need is the governor's signature and she supports it.

    Law enforcement mixed on proposed Open Carry legislation | NewsOK.com
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    She said she supports it in "concept", she hasn't said that she will sign these if they reach her desk. I'am holding my breath on this...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stancehold View Post
    It has passed both house and senate. Now all we need is the governor's signature and she supports it.

    Law enforcement mixed on proposed Open Carry legislation | NewsOK.com
    Not quite correct. There are two bills which are very similar; one started in each side of the legislature. The article was poorly worded, but it meant each has passed in it's own respective house and has been passed to the other side. Neither has been voted on a second time. The bills are basically exactly the same, but one changes the language allowing judges to carry in courts some. No appreciable difference between the two for most of us.

    For me it's not necessarily about preferring OC over CC as a concept, but rather Oklahoma summers can get really hot and sticky. OC would simply be more comfortable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paaiyan View Post
    Not quite correct. There are two bills which are very similar; one started in each side of the legislature. The article was poorly worded, but it meant each has passed in it's own respective house and has been passed to the other side. Neither has been voted on a second time. The bills are basically exactly the same, but one changes the language allowing judges to carry in courts some. No appreciable difference between the two for most of us.

    For me it's not necessarily about preferring OC over CC as a concept, but rather Oklahoma summers can get really hot and sticky. OC would simply be more comfortable.
    Sorry for my misunderstanding. I've been trying to keep track and when the articles don't mention the specific bill numbers, it had become confusing.

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    The Legislature passed a great Bill in both houses a couple years ago knowing it would be vetoed by the Governor in office at the time. Now with a new Governor who says that she would have signed the same Bill that was vetoed by the previous office holder the Legislators find themselves in a bind. They had no intention of seeing a Bill passed so now instead of offering up the same Bill they passed before that the new Governor says she would have signed, they find themselves having to figure other ways to either kill it or make it as useless as possible.
    Bingo. Last year the schemers who run the legisalture teamed up with the Democrats to kill unrestricted carry in OK. The Republican ran house established an illegal committe on open carry. Several of those wonderful pro-gun Republican members of the committee voted with the Democrats and killed unrestricted open carry. This year the hacks gave us a few crumbs in order to head off a referendum on open carry.

    BTW: When she was the OK LT. Gov.; Fallin had a torrid affair with her state trooper driver. As a reward for her cheating, Okies made her a member of the US House of representatives and then governor. Some of us call her Gov. Fallen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stancehold View Post
    Sorry for my misunderstanding. I've been trying to keep track and when the articles don't mention the specific bill numbers, it had become confusing.
    No, not your fault. They worded it poorly in the article. They had me convinced I had it wrong for a minute. I had to look up the status of the bills on the legislature site.
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    I'm hoping this passes! I'll still carry concealed, but it makes it easier not having to worry about printing in these blazin OK Summers. Heck, it's March and it's already 80°. It'll be nice not to have to worry about printing, or picking up a brandishing charge for getting something off the bottom self at Target or Wally World.
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    HB 2522
    SB 1733

    For anyone who wants to track the bills.
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    I think it's wrong for a law to be written that "Allows" something. The way it's supposed to work is that laws "disallow" things. "If there isn't a law, then it's legal" is the way it works in Washington State. Open Carry is legal here because there isn't a law making it illegal. Doesn't that seem better? Just leave us alone and stop making so many laws.

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    I liked this comment in the article though,

    "Just because some people are not in favor of the practice doesn't mean we should forbid it," said Oklahoma Republican Rep. Steve Martin, who co-authored the House bill. "If that were the case would we would also ban face piercing."
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    HB 2522 update: "Reported Do Pass as amended Public Safety committee; pending CR"

    This is from the Senate, it's already passed the House.
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