Open carry.....at the Post Office?????

This is a discussion on Open carry.....at the Post Office????? within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Badey You make a good point. There are also postal police, no joke... they can investigate crimes and arrest offenders, so I'd ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badey View Post
    You make a good point. There are also postal police, no joke... they can investigate crimes and arrest offenders, so I'd be careful about mailing firearms that may not be permitted to be mailed.
    Yes, we kind of got off topic about mailing firearms, but open carry was the original topic.
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    The distinction is what is allowed to be mailed by whom, not what type may be carried on one's person, including in hand, on postal premises. Think about this: If it's legal for a non-FFL to mail a rifle via USPS services, why on Earth would it be illegal to bring the rifle onto postal premises to engage in the business contract of said services? We joke about government and laws not making sense, but come on.
    I was not trying to be dense or argumentative, really. I agree with your analysis predicated on the distinction between pistols and long guns, therefor your conclusion above speaks for itself.

    If, however, no firearms were allowed to be mailed whatsoever (pistols or long guns) (which was my prior understanding), then my distinction would have been on-point I believe.

    No big deal, just trying to articulate myself accurately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radshooter View Post
    While standing in line today to pick up some packages and I noticed the guy in front of me was open carrying a Glock in a Serpa-style holster. He was not in any kind of uniform. If he was some form of LEO, he was either off duty or under cover.

    Have I been misinformed about the law regarding guns in federal buildings? Aren't all Post Offices considered Federal buildings?

    There are no gun-buster signs anywhere in the Post Office that I can find, and I have been going there for 4 years now. I always remove my cc pistol from the holster and leave it in the car while I go in the building.

    Am I wrong? Can you carry into a federal building if there are no signs????

    Thanks.
    I am a 16 year U.S. Postal Service employee and I can assure you one thing: Firearms are not allowed at ANY post office building unless you are a law enforcement officer or postal inspector. I know that in my home state of Texas, they are trying to pass a law that would allow people to carry inside, but so far the current law stands. Bringing a firearm into a postal owned facility is a quick way to get arrested.
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    The prohibition against carrying in a post office has always strck me as kind of odd. After all the term "going postal" comes from them shooting each other not from us going to the post office and shooting people. Wo is going to protect us if the postman decides to go crazy while I am there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkh View Post
    The prohibition against carrying in a post office has always strck me as kind of odd. After all the term "going postal" comes from them shooting each other not from us going to the post office and shooting people. Wo is going to protect us if the postman decides to go crazy while I am there?
    The other postmen will throw 1 oz letters at him the whopping speed of 10 fps, or just cower in fear... should make you feel safe.
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    I don't even drive in front of the post office...LOL. In Texas you can't even be on the parking lot! That's probably because the postal service is so efficient and they don't want to slow it down any....wink...wink!

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    Sounds like a heck of a lot of infringing going on here. That having been said, I don't want to be a test case ...
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    In Texas you can't even be on the parking lot!
    That is true in EVERY state - that is not merely a Texas matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescentstar View Post
    The post office is run by the U.S. Government. How do they NOT have the authority?
    The agency does not have the power to interpret law and regulations. The DOJ does. Now we're onto something. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhcmlc View Post
    I am a 16 year U.S. Postal Service employee and I can assure you one thing: Firearms are not allowed at ANY post office building unless you are a law enforcement officer or postal inspector. I know that in my home state of Texas, they are trying to pass a law that would allow people to carry inside, but so far the current law stands. Bringing a firearm into a postal owned facility is a quick way to get arrested.
    BS!! I mail firearms every week in the post office. If it wasn't legal to bring a firearm onto postal property, why in the hell would they let me mail them from their premises?? Seriously, we're all intelligent here. Use your head.

    You have not assured me of anything with your false claim. Thanks for trying.
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    A few years back a Madison Wisconsin postal employee was fired when he brought his fully cased deer rifle, locked inside a truck mounted camper, to the employee parking lot on the day before hunting season. He planned to leave for hunting after work. A postal supervisor walking to lunch peered inside the camper and saw the gun case. The Postal inspectors where called and the employee was ordered to open the camper. When he did, he was escorted off the premises and the paper work was filed to immediately terminate his employment. After months of fighting, he was reinstated. He is a friend. There are signs in the employee area stating no firearms are allowed on Postal property and that includes both employee and customer parking areas. They seem very serious about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radshooter View Post
    While standing in line today to pick up some packages and I noticed the guy in front of me was open carrying a Glock in a Serpa-style holster. He was not in any kind of uniform. If he was some form of LEO, he was either off duty or under cover.

    Have I been misinformed about the law regarding guns in federal buildings? Aren't all Post Offices considered Federal buildings?

    There are no gun-buster signs anywhere in the Post Office that I can find, and I have been going there for 4 years now. I always remove my cc pistol from the holster and leave it in the car while I go in the building.

    Am I wrong? Can you carry into a federal building if there are no signs????

    Thanks.
    I'm gonna let you in on a little known secret............if it aint posted it's okay. At your own risk in USPS facilities. By the way.......USPS facilities are not "federal". Contractors. Many options here.

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    it might wake them up....literally!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrclen View Post
    A few years back a Madison Wisconsin postal employee was fired when he brought his fully cased deer rifle, locked inside a truck mounted camper, to the employee parking lot on the day before hunting season. He planned to leave for hunting after work. A postal supervisor walking to lunch peered inside the camper and saw the gun case. The Postal inspectors where called and the employee was ordered to open the camper. When he did, he was escorted off the premises and the paper work was filed to immediately terminate his employment. After months of fighting, he was reinstated. He is a friend. There are signs in the employee area stating no firearms are allowed on Postal property and that includes both employee and customer parking areas. They seem very serious about this.
    Big difference between an employee conduct rules and federal law. What happened was he violated the rules of his employment, but not federal law. Big difference.

    But again, explain to me why it's legal to bring a firearm to the post office to mail but it's illegal to bring the same onto the property in the first place.

    This kind of stuff is exactly why crap like this gets perpetuated around the gun forum world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tubby45 View Post
    BS!! I mail firearms every week in the post office. If it wasn't legal to bring a firearm onto postal property, why in the hell would they let me mail them from their premises?? Seriously, we're all intelligent here. Use your head.

    You have not assured me of anything with your false claim. Thanks for trying.
    There is a big difference in bringing in an unloaded firearm sealed in a plain box to mail and open carrying a loaded gun visible in a holster at the post office, which, again, was how this thread started.
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