Unarmed man attempts gun grab on OC'er

Unarmed man attempts gun grab on OC'er

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    Unarmed man attempts gun grab on OC'er

    Unarmed man attempts to rob EMU student of holstered gun

    This guy was damn lucky. I know the article does not say much but he let the guy get a little to close. Luckily there was someone else around.
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    Well, there's the third time I've heard of this happening. Something for those of us who open carry to weigh and consider.
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    Here come the "I told you so's"
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    Strong hand on the gun, keeping it in place and drawing if possible, weak hand pummeling the attacker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    Here come the "I told you so's"
    I would never say that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntzu View Post
    Here come the "I told you so's"
    I'll pass on that, but this isn't the first time this has happened.


    2010: WI: Milwaukee
    police are investigating a robbery in which a man took a handgun from another man who was openly carrying the gun in a holster on his hip, a department spokeswoman said Wednesday.
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    The robber approached the 34-year-old victim and asked for a cigarette, Schwartz said. The victim gave the robber a cigarette, but the robber then pointed a handgun at the victim and took the victim's gun from his holster, she said.
    2011: Richmond VA?

    Toby Smith Jr. is accused of stealing Blaine Tyler's gun inside a gas station last week and fatally shooting him after Tyler chased Smith inside the store.


    Tyler, 48, had a concealed-carry permit, but his handgun was plainly visible that night in his holster, Johnson said.

    "The suspects walk in and one immediately reached for Mr. Tyler's gun," Johnson said. Tyler did not draw his weapon.

    According to court papers, Smith took Tyler's gun during a struggle and shot Tyler in the chest after the victim chased Smith inside the store. Authorities said they could not confirm that Tyler was killed with his own gun until they get the results of forensics testing. They also are awaiting test results to show whether the gun used to kill Tyler was the one used to shoot Cosby.
    This guy got lucky.

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    I know it happens. Folks get robbed everyday with items that are in the open like purses. I was not trying to be a wise butt. Just hoping it does not turn into a OC vs CC. CC folks have in the past make a big deal that a risk of OCing is someone taking your weapon. Folks that OC are not oblivious to this fact. Hopefully if one chooses to OC then they do a risk assesment and understand the risk.

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    I'm not against OC, but you had better have some kind of retention holster and training.
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    The student should have freely given up his gun and bullets...bullets first!:brutal&:
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    Two words - retention holster
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    Quote Originally Posted by babarock View Post
    Two words - retention holster
    I prefer "Perforate Perpetrator"
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    The predators are getting desperate.
    Good reason to carry a BUG.
    Would that be grounds for shooting said knuckledragger??

    I would llike to think so.
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    I Open Carry all the time even with my CPL... I use a Level II Serpa Holster, and have Firearms retention training.... Don't Open carry unless you have retention holster,, good SA... and some training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oneshot View Post
    Good reason to carry a BUG.
    I was thinking the same thing. I ALWAYS carry a BUG when I open carry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paaiyan View Post
    Strong hand on the gun, keeping it in place and drawing if possible, weak hand pummeling the attacker.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crescentstar View Post
    I'm not against OC, but you had better have some kind of retention holster and training.
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    Two words - retention holster

    Many criminals know how to defeat the retention holsters and all it does it buy you time and you need to know what to do next. There are specific ways to defend against an attack forcing the bad guy to let go and you keeping control of the gun in the holster. So like anything else, training, training, training.
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