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    Moderators cannot really prevent a member from expressing a personal opinion anywhere on the forum unless it is somehow/some way a specific forum rule violation.
    Well, we CAN but we usually don't make any friends by doing that and it creates some real hard feelings.
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    Just remember that conceal carry use to be frowned down on because you had something to hide...

    I do both, Some days when I know I have to CC because of places I will be at (races ect.) I will. When I don't have to I will throw on the holster and OC, somedays I just wear a T-Shirt and OWB holster and cover it because tucking in a T-shirt seems kinda redneck to me.

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    O.C. C.C. either way....Carry On!
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    When anyone carrying a gun,either OC or CC, acts in a seemingly irresponsible way it affects all of us who want to see our 2A rights remain intact. We want to see responsible behavior amoung gun owners. If there is a post made that sounds 'not quite right' there should be an open forum to discuss it from EITHER side of the fence.

    BTW... many, many threads left alone degenerate into a pile of negativity, not just the OC thread. It's the nature of the beast.
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    I like to OC when it's convenient for me. I don't do it to make a statement or anything else so I usually do what's easiest for me at the time. Probably 95% CC 5% OC.

    I think what I hate most is the attitudes that I come across in the OC forum toward others that don't agree with them. I always see a "screw them" mentality here and it goes both ways. I see the "you are stupid if you OC" comments and I see the "it's my right so I will behave any way I want" comments. Between the two I'd say that I hate the latter types more than I hate the former, but then again I'm not in here very often.
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    "Just remember that conceal carry use to be frowned down on because you had something to hide.."

    OK - Let's not start it all in reverse here in this thread.
    A perfect text book example of how it all gets started right up there in post #17.

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    [QUOTE=GeorgiaDawg;2308154]I'm OC'ing right now but prefer CC. I don't have a problem with the CC-only crowd commenting in the OC section. I also don't have a problem with the OC'ers commenting in the CC section. I think the different opinions help everyone grow, either by changing opinions or giving better arguments for what we already believe.

    I understand the frustration in your perception that only OC-friendly posters should comment in this section, but so long as everyone stays respectful, I think we can all benefit from the discourse.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think Mike is saying only OC friendly members should post in this section. He's voicing the same frustration I get when members come in with a holier than thou attitude and leave post like this:

    I can't get past the point of 'Why would anybody in their right mind want to open carry if they can concealed carry?'
    That's not contributing to the discussion, that IMO is trying to start a fight. If someone doesn't agree with something, but doesn't have something constructive to add, then they should keep comments like that to themself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archer51 View Post
    ... the same frustration I get when members come in with a holier than thou attitude and leave post like this:

    'I can't get past the point of 'Why would anybody in their right mind want to open carry if they can concealed carry?'
    That's not contributing to the discussion, that IMO is trying to start a fight.
    How about having a single, permanent "sticky" thread open for all, specifically entitled PROS/CONS Debate of OC, then having everyone reply to such comments with a simple, civil reminder to such posters that discussions about the pros/cons debate should be carried on in the sticky.
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    I OC around the house and the yard, I CC when I'm out-and-about. Those are just my preferences.
    Just because I (almost) never OC off my property, it doesn't mean I'm not in favor of it and it certainly doesn't mean I can't share thoughts and ideas with those who do.
    However one chooses to carry, I can only hope they do so in a responsible manner and paint responsibly armed citizens in a good light.

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    I think Bumper pretty much covered it in Rule #2 on the forum rules page.
    Now,,,if we could just get members to remember those rules.

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    Well it sounded to me like he was saying that he didn't understand why the OC-unfriendlies are posting in this section if not to stir the pot, and that such pot-stirring should be moderated. Perhaps I misunderstood, but that it how it came across to me.

    The type of comments like the one you quoted are certainly the types I was thinking of in regards to the OP's statements. I think such comments (anti-OC or anti-CC) are not condussive to an informative discussion.
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    This is the Internet first off. If a guy named Doug1234 in BFE, OH gets people fired up its time to go sit outside do something constructive versus sitting on the computer writing a dissertation on "No Trespassing Here - CC people". We are are part of the same community. I OC less then I CC. I think the whole thing is childish given this is the Internet and it involves gun. We have enough wieners complaining about guns period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    "Just remember that conceal carry use to be frowned down on because you had something to hide.."

    OK - Let's not start it all in reverse here in this thread.
    A perfect text book example of how it all gets started right up there in post #17.
    I'm being serious here. Help me understand why post#17 is inflammatory? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QKShooter View Post
    "Just remember that conceal carry use to be frowned down on because you had something to hide.."

    OK - Let's not start it all in reverse here in this thread.
    A perfect text book example of how it all gets started right up there in post #17.
    it wasn't meant as that, I just stating that in the old old old days that was the way it was. Just saying that times have changed as have attitudes.

    I'm pro LAC carry no matter how you carry.

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