This is a discussion on new permit, ONE BIG QUESTION within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; understood, the idea is if your life is ALREADY being threatened - maybe even just verbally, i've had people threaten to kill me AND be ...
understood, the idea is if your life is ALREADY being threatened - maybe even just verbally, i've had people threaten to kill me AND be violent - now i can say i have a gun ;) my three foot long crowbar i used repeatedly is alot harder to swing and jab with like i used to ;) at 45 with arthritis i just want to pull a trigger or even just say i have a gun ;)
this idea of OH HE HAS A GUN SO HE WILL BE MORE BOLD AND CHALLENGING IN PUBLIC doesn't work for me, it makes me more careful and humble when i carry because i know the potential and as such MORE likely to avoid conflict and of course i worry alot less if conflict comes to me ;)
- i avoid people like the plague anyway - the lone wolf, with 8 9mm corbon powerball +P teeth if needed
OP, just keep it concealed and don't go blabbing. Your close relatives may or may not know that you have your permit but if you conceal it properly they won't be able to, nor will they have to know if you have a firearm on you. You should treat it as just another dress piece in your daily routine and no one needs to know about it until either tactfully informing LE that you are licensed and have it with you or when your life is in grave danger and you have no other choice but to present it and stop the threat. That's IT. I don't see it being any more complicated than that.
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Per definitions in a lot of states..... .IF ... you tell someone you have a gun , as a means to intimidate or threaten them, it is a crime. Whether you actually have a gun or not. Not sure if you were talking about a situation you find yourself in , and you advise them you have a gun (hoping to stop them .... but will be interpreted as you threatening them) ..... I wouldn't, under any circumstances.... because it can easily be interpreted to your disadvantage and end you up in jail.
IF ... it's to admit to a friend you are carrying, that's up to you.
Anyone outside of a police officer asking you, has no need to know. Period.
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sounds good, wise and a simple enough summation to cover most all situations...
- damn bro, u gotta at least have a crossbow ;) i have a 760 myself, 10 pumps and 600+ fps for a .17 BB? good for mice, if even... come one, u gotta have something... go ahead and tell us what guns u have, really?
i figured as much, but for the longest time i had a gun on me on my property before getting a permit and my mail box is on RIGHT OF WAY
-- they would have to climb a 6 foot fence and THAT would be more than enough reason to pull a gun out - after i race up to them with pepper, knife, etc... u know, escalation of response... which of course can get u killed if they have a gun immediately ready to go... so u never know and too bad we have to worry as much about the police as we do criminals as to our freedom... what sucks is that i can't shoot cause i'm in the city limits (minus 4th of july, new year, and when we win the national championship i can sneak in a few shots as camouflaged auditory bangs around the city mask my crime ;)
central? as in Sanford? ;) during our class he had us mark parts of the law we needed to read and then we went over in detail the most important sections... but i think its wrong... we should be able to carry a gun in most all the places u r not allowed... court? now that is an obvious one and doesn't bother me as much when a judge and cop have them... just look at all the violence in courts WITHOUT guns --- i wonder if the lawyers can pack heat...
I think it is like a game of poker ( not that i treat these kinds of situations as a game it is not). In terms of winning the outcome or hand (surviving), would you reveal that you have four aces before he bets? Once you declare your hand it is now their move.If he thinks his hand can beat your hand he will bet the farm and you may end up buying the farm. Why give up the advantage. Robs advice was spot on. If your at a point where there is only verbal confrontation..Walk away.
I prefer an attacker finds out when it is too late for them.That facial expression of " I should have never tried to kill this guy,now i am done for"
aworld, good points, i was thinking of the verbal warning UNconceal while u r getting your butt kicked or being threatened with maybe a knife or a gang or whatever, but certainly not all just verbal, unless I'M GOING TO KILL YOU comes up ;) i've had a few tell me that - one i hit twice with a crowbar and the other got hounded by police... so maybe I'M GOING TO KILL YOU followed by I HAVE A GUN could work? just keep your hand on it ready for a good old western style duel - gary cooper? forrest tucker? i think that dates me way older than i really am ;)
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After reading through the posts i can't seem to find an acceptable reason to verbally declare that i am armed. Lots of down sides.If a person is ontop of you and is saying "I'm going to kill you", i take that as a direct threat to life and limb.So action would be needed not some further verbal warning.Its gone beyond at that point.
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