Police Officer: "Sir, you'll need to put your gun in the car and leave it there."
Me: "I'll wait for it to come out on Redbox, thank you." and then proceed to leave.
If its legal, then its legal and stories like this set bad precedent.
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Police Officer: "Sir, you'll need to put your gun in the car and leave it there."
Me: "I'll wait for it to come out on Redbox, thank you." and then proceed to leave.
If its legal, then its legal and stories like this set bad precedent.
I would agree, but signs posted=illegal :/Quote:
Originally Posted by DefConGun
I must have mis-read it. I thought someone said signs weren't posted. I thought the whole point of the story was that they were asked to put their guns away after they were legally carrying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burns
They had small signs that I'm guessing none of them noticed. The officer told the theater to put bigger ones up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DefConGun
Well, there is more madness:
Man Arrested After Gun Brought Into Theater - ABC News
Madness and insanity, indeed: issued a citation for having a defensive firearm, merely because another saw it and felt alarmed because of the sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Bunny
That someone felt alarmed doesn't hardly equate to the carrier being or acting alarming, IMO not by any standard.
But there are such statutes, most everywhere, covering "disturbances." Despite carrying being a perfectly lawful and acceptable behavior, it's considered a violation via the safety, decorum and alarming feelings avoidance statutes on the books. Not until there's a "mere carrying while going about one's lawful business does not constitute viable, acceptable or lawful cause to prosecute," then people will continue to be vilified. Sadly, very few states have any such commitment on the books.
So, are you name-calling because the "moron cop" was doing his job? The theater had a no guns policy. They asked Sgt. Harris to ask the patrons to leave. This is pretty typical. The theater owner simply did not want to ask the patrons himself. How does this make the cop a "moron"?? If you dont like an establishment's policy, go somewhere else. If you choose to stay, and get told to leave, dont cry over unfinished popcorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by TN_Mike
Where's the outrage over the woman who took a cell phone call during the movie? That is a much larger breach of social etiquette.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Bunny
That one is a tough call. We are required to notify if any officer asks us for identification. There's nothing in the law about it having to be a one-on-one encounter instead of a group request.Quote:
Originally Posted by RevolvingMag
And while we typically associate an ID request as a request for license, I can see a judge saying that a request to see any CCP is actually a request for identification - just a specific identification.
Truth be told, I'd comply just as the 3 in TN did - however, I'd request a refund. I wouldn't risk any legal issues over a movie I can watch much more comfortably in my home theater.
It's too bad they were forced to bring their weapons to their cars. I agree with the others who said they would have asked for a refund. What if there had been another psychopath just lurking in the crowd? He now knows nobody has defense. This tragedy in Colorado just re-affirms why I (and other law-abiding citizens) do and should carry everywhere.
I agree ^Quote:
Originally Posted by kmf0925
I don't think I would ever dissarm and return after a public dissarmament of all law abiding patrons. Do you think a person intent on shooting the place up would have stood up when the officer asked who had the gun? So, after everyone inclined to follow laws and social norms (AKA: NOT KILLING PEOPLE) is gone or dissarmed, the bad guy can now proceed to shoot everyone else with no concern for being stopped. I would have probably explained that to the theater staff on the way out, and ask how he would sleep if another massacre happened, and he had forced the people who could have stopped it to leave the theater.
Theater management completely in their rights to deny the carriage of weapons on their property.
Cop completely in the right in helping theater personnel to enforce private property rights.
No way on earth I'd go leave my gun in the car and then return to the theater after publicly disarming.
BTW, I'll guarantee you that after the three law-abiding citizens disarmed, there were still weapons in that theater. Knives at a minimum, and probably a firearm or two.
On the second story - handgunlaw.us says CO CCL good for 5 yrs, and he says his was issued in 03. Ridiculous that someone freaks out about a handgun, but he's still going to pay for it.
What makes the cop a moron is that he asked them to put the guns in their cars publicly. That opened the risk for the theft of the guns. He endangered a whole lot of people by not talking to the men in private.Quote:
Originally Posted by kb2wji
The new open carry law that will go into effect in Oklahoma in November has a special clause written in it to address this problem. No person who is legally carrying a weapon can be arrested for disturbing the peace or other such charges.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccw9mm
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