This is a discussion on Man who carries gun to polls sues within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Sig35seven My,my...how the tide has suddenly changed in favor of these silly little law suits. There is a difference here. One is ...
We are fighting things here, where Cities are trying to "hold on" to the old laws, that were all pre-empted by the STATE as much as 5-6 yrs ago. The STATE laws specifically says that all county or city ordinances are void in several areas. They can no longer "prohibit" open carry, for example. That means what it says. Some cities, have been enforcing the old laws (even though they were void) and putting people in jail, etc..... and the attorneys of those charged didn't realize (because they dealt more with local laws only and hadn't done their research) they had been pre-empted by the State. So, people were sitting in jail... for something that WAS NOT a crime.
One guy that was caught in this, I told him his attorney was full of it.... and sent him the laws to hand his attorney. The attorney told him "I didin't realize that" , and guess what ... charges dismissed. I'm not an avid advocate of anything in particular.
Cities, etc. at local levels will often try to do "what they want" to keep the sheep in line, even knowing that it's really not legal. I live in such a town that still doesn't want to recognize their laws are no longer valid at all.... and concealed or open, they'll harrass you, try to arrest you, etc. Would I sue them, you bet..... and I've let them know I'ld do it in a heart beat ... because they know I have a CC license (long story & small town). So, guess who they leave alone.... but there are "some" that 'often' suggest..... to me that carrying might not be a good idea. My response is, try to enforce a voided pre-empted law and I'ld definitely being filing a lawsuit. There are others (LEO's, etc) that let me know they think it's a good idea.
I've been in court rooms 1000's of times, a couple more is no problem if they want to try to enforce laws that are bogus.
I applaud the guy. I don't think it has a thing to do with getting attention, or any such thing.... it's about standing up for your rights and requiring the city to follow the laws .. and not make them up as they go along. If they tried to enforce their preference (illegally) when it's legal per the law.... then he should sue them for it.
Or, would ya'all just roll over, let them run over you and play dead for them ?
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This guy did nothing wrong. If one cannot exercise a right for fear of losing the right then the right matters not.
You know, I see these posts and I can't help but wonder. Years ago, people broke stupid laws all the time to protect their civil rights. Why is it so different here? We as gun owners ARE discriminated against. It seems to me that there are too many places nowadays that we're not allowed to go with our gun. That fundamentally denies us the right to protect ourselves. Is that not a right worth standing up for?
I'm not saying everyone should strap on a gun and run through a gun-free zone, but I do think some people need to grow a backbone and stand up for something they believe in, rather than "flying below the radar."
There are people who stand up for their rights and there are people who just need to bltch about the guy who stands up for those rights. When the day comes that that guy doesn't stand up anymore the bltchers will bltch about no one fighting to protect those rights.
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For those of you "afraid" of the guy causing more restrictive laws; remember this was in Indiana where the legislature authorize the shooting of LEO illegally entering your home; as a born Hoosier I doubt anything will come of it.
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If loose gun laws are good for criminals why do criminals support gun control?
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Here is the original stroy. It shows that it was not just a kneww jerk reaction by the LEO's. It was a total failure of the government to get its act together. The gentleman in question does not fit the you tube seeker stereotype. In fact I do not beleive any video was aver posted. It appears he was also courteous and respectful the whole time.
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