This is a discussion on Open carry at a garage sale within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by ericb327 open carry in public is perfectly fine. However, do you want strangers to know you have firearms in your home? I ...
Since it appears CC is legal as long as you stay on your property, it may be wise to CC. I don't, and wouldn't want to advertise that I'm a gun owner. Its not like you will personally know every individual(or who their friends are) that comes to browse/purchase your items, and it could result in your house becoming a target for burglary with the intent of stealing your firearm(s). The same reasons I don't have those signs like "my neighbor is anti-gun, but I'm not" or "protected by Ruger" in my yard or on my cars, and don't wear shirts like "I don't dial 911". I prefer to remain "gray man". It also opens up the door if any of your neighbors is anti-gun or anybody that stops by is anti-gun to lose sales or get into a "debate". Just my $.02
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I would not advise OCing for a garage sale. However, take that with plenty of salt since I think OCing is the 2A equivalent of the Occupy movement: stupid, counterproductive, and potentially bad for your health.
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I just got back from a walk in the nearby State Forest. Being as it's a Saturday there were more people than I usually encounter during the week. I normally open carry there but all that means is my untucked T shirt is pulled up so the gun is more readily available. My dog's leash is held by my left hand & pulling the shirt up is a bit slower. When I get near people I just give the T shirt a tug to cover the gun & holster. I believe in open carry but I really don't want to advertise. The same goes when I'm working or sitting in my yard. If the gun prints then so be it but I'm not going to put on a show that I'm armed. I don't believe there's any advantage in that. Both are legal in my state.
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However, what I found may open this up to a whole different discussion. I was looking to find specific laws in Michigan pertaining to carry on/in private property. What I initially found is disturbing at best.
Michigan Legislature - Basic MCL Search
Using Keywords: Right to carry, Firearms, Concealed Weapons
28.421.amended Definitions; lawful owning, possessing, carrying, or transporting of pistol greater than 26 inches in length; firearm as pistol.
(1) As used in this act:
(a) "Felony" means that term as defined in section 1 of chapter I of the code of criminal procedure, 1927 PA 175, MCL 761.1, or a violation of a law of the United States or another state that is designated as a felony or that is punishable by death or by imprisonment for more than 1 year.
(b) "Firearm" means a weapon from which a dangerous projectile may be propelled by an explosive, or by gas or air. Firearm does not include a smooth bore rifle or handgun designed and manufactured exclusively for propelling by a spring, or by gas or air, BBs not exceeding .177 caliber.
(e) "Pistol" means a loaded or unloaded firearm that is 26 inches or less in length, or a loaded or unloaded firearm that by its construction and appearance conceals it as a firearm.
(2) A person may lawfully own, possess, carry, or transport as a pistol a firearm greater than 26 inches in length if all of the following conditions apply:
(a) The person registered the firearm as a pistol under section 2 or 2a before January 1, 2013.
(b) The person who registered the firearm as described in subdivision (a) has maintained registration of the firearm since January 1, 2013 without lapse.
(c) The person possesses a copy of the license or record issued to him or her under section 2 or 2a.
(3) A person who satisfies all of the conditions listed under subsection (2) nevertheless may elect to have the firearm not be considered to be a pistol. A person who makes the election under this subsection shall notify the department of state police of the election in a manner prescribed by that department.
28.422 License to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistol; issuance; qualifications; applications; sale of pistol; exemptions; nonresidents; basic pistol safety brochure; forging application; implementation during business hours.
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this section, a person shall not purchase, carry, possess, or transport a pistol in this state without first having obtained a license for the pistol as prescribed in this section.
(2) A person who brings a pistol into this state who is on leave from active duty with the armed forces of the United States or who has been discharged from active duty with the armed forces of the United States shall obtain a license for the pistol within 30 days after his or her arrival in this state.
(3) The commissioner or chief of police of a city, township, or village police department that issues licenses to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistols, or his or her duly authorized deputy, or the sheriff or his or her duly authorized deputy, in the parts of a county not included within a city, township, or village having an organized police department, in discharging the duty to issue licenses shall with due speed and diligence issue licenses to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistols to qualified applicants residing within the city, village, township, or county, as applicable unless he or she has probable cause to believe that the applicant would be a threat to himself or herself or to other individuals, or would commit an offense with the pistol that would violate a law of this or another state or of the United States. An applicant is qualified if all of the following circumstances exist: ~~ snipped~~
(8) An individual who is not a resident of this state is not required to obtain a license under this section if all of the following conditions apply:
(a) The individual is licensed in his or her state of residence to purchase, carry, or transport a pistol.
(b) The individual is in possession of the license described in subdivision (a).
(c) The individual is the owner of the pistol he or she possesses, carries, or transports.
(d) The individual possesses the pistol for a lawful purpose as that term is defined in section 231a of the Michigan penal code, 1931 PA 328, MCL 750.231a.
(e) The individual is in this state for a period of 180 days or less and does not intend to establish residency in this state.
From what I am reading, for any Pistols (firearms under 26 inches in length), you have to have a license just to purchase or possess the firearm regardless of where it is located or stored.
Please verify this for yourself as I am not a lawyer or a resident in Michigan.
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I'd do it, repercussions (if any) be damned.
Garage salers are a ravenous bunch, so I doubt that any would be put off by your display. Plus, it may dissuade those with sticky fingers from borrowing anything...
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It largely hinges upon the value you place on potential customers' attitudes toward firearms.
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Well, not to be smart or anything, but...
If I were really serious about drawing attention to myself, as in, looky here at me... I'm not one to be messed with...
I would wear my Rolex Oyster watch, my one ounce gold nugget necklace, and my three diamond rings with 18k gold, along with my pink Fedora pimp hat!
It's a yard sale for goodness sake! A weapon is not a fashion statement IMHO, it's for a confide life and death situation and not to give a would be criminal advance notice of your wardrobe. Or notice to your would be customers, "steal from me and looky here"!
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I went to a garage sale a few weeks ago. The guy there was saleing frog lube and had it gun sitting on the table beside his money box. It didnt seem to bother anyone.. I say do it..
Is there any state that bans conceal carry in your own home - or on your own property - whether or not you have a CWP?