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This is a discussion on got asked to conceal at my own home... within the Open Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by tricolordad Today my daughters head start teacher came for a home visit, and right before leaving, she asked me to cover up ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    Today my daughters head start teacher came for a home visit, and right before leaving, she asked me to cover up my handgun...
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    I think the key word is "asked"... just a little courtesy... seems that she didn't threaten you with discontinued bus service or any legal action, it was simply a request. Working with kids on a schoolbus is not easy; and bottom line, you entrust her on a daily basis with your kids. Maybe it would help her carry out that responsibility if your gun were concealed; maybe it just makes her feel uneasy. Either way, since it was simply a request, you have the right to say no. And no problem at all if you exercise that right.

    But would it be any skin off your back if you honored her request? Help her take care of your kids, and when it gets to the point that you don't want her anti-gun bias influencing your kids, then simply resort to home -school....


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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine181 View Post
    I think it's pretty weird to be asked to do this... they're guns, kids know what they are, what are they afraid of?

    But if this was my son, I'd just tuck it in. Maybe I'm a pansy, but I just wouldn't want to deal with an argument over it... maybe say "yeah, I'll do it, but...." then tell them why you think you shouldn't have to, but I wouldn't make a big deal about it.... just me though
    I agree. It's not like the OP is being asked to disarm. You are just as able to defend yourself concealed than you are open carry. I would not risk my child not being able to ride the bus (at least until you could get things settled). I know there are those on here who will take a hardline stand, but I would just cover it up and keep things civil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I agree whole heartedly, but when that planning starts causing issues in real life, it's time to reevaluate.

    If you look at the OPs other threads, the last thing he needs is more drama in his life.
    So far this hasn't caused any issues. He's been asked not to, and no actual consequences were named if he doesn't comply. Any speculation from other posters on this thread about his daughter being removed from school, or the bus privilege being revoked is ONLY speculation at this point. For all we know, he may keep OC and the school officials will just say "well, we tried" and move on.

    And Its hardly your place to suggest what OP does or doesn't need in his life. You are, after all, the administrator of this forum. Not Tricolordad's Pa.
    No disrespect intended with that last comment.
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    These threads always make me wonder how many on this forum are actually undercover Brady workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittypat21 View Post
    He's been asked not to, and no actual consequences were named if he doesn't comply. Any speculation from other posters on this thread about his daughter being removed from school, or the bus privilege being revoked is ONLY speculation at this point. For all we know, he may keep OC and the school officials will just say "well, we tried" and move on.
    In post #20 tricolordad made it clear that he understood it to be more than a request...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pittypat21 View Post
    So far this hasn't caused any issues. He's been asked not to, and no actual consequences were named if he doesn't comply. Any speculation from other posters on this thread about his daughter being removed from school, or the bus privilege being revoked is ONLY speculation at this point. For all we know, he may keep OC and the school officials will just say "well, we tried" and move on.

    And Its hardly your place to suggest what OP does or doesn't need in his life. You are, after all, the administrator of this forum. Not Tricolordad's Pa.
    No disrespect intended with that last comment.
    No worries, I'm glad he's not my kid.

    And with that, I'm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline View Post
    In post #20 tricolordad made it clear that he understood it to be more than a request...
    I noticed that too... but there is a difference between implied and direct threats here I suppose. I tend to agree that a follow up with the administration might be in order, my position is that if I were in his position I would just conceal until it was all sorted out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder71 View Post
    These threads always make me wonder how many on this forum are actually undercover Brady workers.
    I assume you mean these bradys ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrenaline View Post
    In post #20 tricolordad made it clear that he understood it to be more than a request...
    Phrased as a request, with no consequences mentioned. He understood it to be more than a request, but if they didn't say what they will do, then he is speculating as well, and the rest of us most certainly aren't one to say what they will do either. So, again, so it hasn't become an issue, and we have no idea what they will do should he choose to OC still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    No worries, I'm glad he's not my kid.

    And with that, I'm out.
    Yeah, I'm out, too (at least, out of this thread). We're just beating a dead horse at this point (or a couple of them!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder71 View Post
    These threads always make me wonder how many on this forum are actually undercover Brady workers.
    I don't read it that way. I think everyone whose opinion I have read is definitely Pro 2-A. Even among the pro-gun crowd, everyone is not going to see things the same way. I, for instance would have not trouble being asked to conceal, but I would have a real problem being asked to disarm!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    Today my daughters head start teacher came for a home visit, and right before leaving, she asked me to cover up my handgun when the bus dropped off my kid. I hadn't even thought of it, I put on my clothes the same way each day. I'm conflicted as to what to do. On one hand, I'm in private property, on the other, they could refuse bus service which I need. What do you guys think?


    I have my CCL, and on private property it isn't required to conceal. OC is constitutional here as well.
    Does the bus pull onto your property to stop? Or is it on the "right of way"? My property does not extend to the street but stops about 10 feet from the edge of the pavement. In that case you would not be on your property if you escorted your child to the bus.

    Regardless, you're not going to get a common consensus here, only a battle between practicality and "rights." You need to pick your battles--and this may not be the one you want to choose when such an easy solution is available, to cover up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Does the bus pull onto your property to stop? Or is it on the "right of way"? My property does not extend to the street but stops about 10 feet from the edge of the pavement. In that case you would not be on your property if you escorted your child to the bus.

    Regardless, you're not going to get a common consensus here, only a battle between practicality and "rights." You need to pick your battles--and this may not be the one you want to choose when such an easy solution is available, to cover up.
    OP later stated that the bus pulls down the 200 feet of his driver, practically right up to his doorstep. If this wasn't the case, my opinion on the whole issue would be different. If the bus stop was like my bus stop when I was in high school (down the street at the corner), I'd feel differently about it.
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    I refrained from posting on the speculation as much as i could. For all i know, this anti is browsing the forums looking to see if she made a stink. Acknowleging what they percieve as an advantage on their part could be reinforcing to them their perceived "power.". I only asked what you guys thought, didnt say i was going to actually do anything that was recommended...ive already chosen my action. Which is a letter to the director requesting a meeting and a threat to pull my children out of their head start. The other preschools in the area have swimming lessons, field trips and some curriculum; ours has almost nothing but low attendance. They sent oh so many letters encouraging us to help sign up relatives so they dont lose federal funding. Thats my angle. Not sure it will work, id hate to redo all the paperwork.

    And yes, for the sake of being productive in the debate, i declined to point out the doomsdayers calling out 'paranoia.'. I did notice that though...that and questions which were already answered being asked repeatedly. I would not carry open to a corner bus stop. Too many little hands...

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