Spoken like a true socialist.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldVet
"The german army never carried away people at night. It never or rarely happened"
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Spoken like a true socialist.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldVet
"The german army never carried away people at night. It never or rarely happened"
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Originally Posted by RightsEroding
One statement supported by history; one a matter of opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by RightsEroding
And for the record, I am far from being a "socialist."
Funny that I compared NC to Indiana yesterday in this post. NC and Indiana were the only two states that went Dem in '08 and Rep in '12.Quote:
Originally Posted by dbglock
Hmmm.... let me see.... Someone calling themselves "Rights eroding" comes into the OPEN carry part of the forum and lets us know how we will be detained if we don't carry as he does. Is this an attempt to
"Erode" our rights or just one to stir up the oc vs. cc controversy once again?
I highly recommend you do open carry as often as possible anywhere it is legal to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by carracer
Nothing like a little live classroom lab.
Come back in 3 months and report your experience.
Not every so often, not where you know you might be hassled. Everywhere it is legal to do so.
As said, I do carry, but not oc as I stated earlier. I do not want nor do I welcome that sort of attention.
Been doing so for several years without incidence. Last evening open carried to the polls my best dressed Colt 1911 in Serpa. Was about 65 degrees so short sleeves and no jacket. Polling place was the Nampa Civic Center. Posted "No Weapons". Childrens theater groups performing in other rooms of the building. Little old ladies at the polling station where I sign in. No panic, no calling the police, just pleasant conversation waiting for a clear voting booth. As the voting booths were to my right and I was wearing my left side serpa there is no doubt about it being seen by the ladies for several minutes as I waited directly in front of them.
Just yesterdays experience. Would you like more?
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Originally Posted by carracer
Let's see. Posted "No Weapons" and you carried it in anyway?
Do I want more? Ummm..No thanks...You just spoke volumes about the type of individual you are.
Idaho law 18-3302 pre-empts any laws or rules by local legislation such as the City of Nampa. They were notified of the wording about a year ago and it remains posted for weapons such as knives and such, which I was not carrying. So, the kind of individual I am is fully compliant with the law. My example is such that the sheeple that may not know the pre-emption were not concerned in the slightest by my legal and responsible carry.Quote:
Originally Posted by RightsEroding
Rights, where'd you go?
Some oc some dont. I dont oc I just dont want the added attention. Indiana permit says licence to carry handgun. Not concealed weapon. Ive heard its advisable to cc for not drawing attention to ones self.
As some have stated the permit in indiana is not specifically a carry conceal permit ,the law makes no determination on how you carry your handgun.The problem in indiana is not the wording of the law ,but the lack of understanding by many law enforcement persons.I have been on the indiana open carry forum and read postings of positive and negative experiences by open carry people.
:22a:...and it is precisely this "this lack of understanding" that WILL often cause one to be detained/harassed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CIBMike
This has little to do with who is in the right.
Some here apparently do not grasp this very real possibility. I am not arguing the legality of being detained/harassed. My point is Not drawing attention to one self. While oc is legal in many states,...so is burning a flag in public. Both will p*** off many including LE. After a period of this sort of bravado, the irritation is oft followed by liberal pot stirrers....before we know it, local gov is looking at the possibility of restricting OC.
I find most people who OC are just showing the unwashed masses how big their machine is.
Other than LE, I see no reason to stir up the hornets nest. Legal CC is and has been under attack for a while now. Why give them the fuel?
It does not take a advanced degree in social engineering to fully realize the anti gun community is looking for as many reasons as possible to take guns away. If anyone thinks this stance is extreme and just wants to bury there head in the sand, then I submit that thinking is dangerous. Have a look at the UN gun treaty as it gains more traction and evolves. Another subject altogether which I am happy to discuss in another topic.
Thousands of people open carry everyday without problems. I don't need a permission slip to do so either. Sorry you have a fear of this. The rest of us don't.
The size of my "machine" has nothing to do with this. Well, maybe it does as I'm sure you are making the usual phalic reference so commonly referred to by CCers. I must admit, my "machine" is not near big enough to defend myself with. You, on the other hand, must have been endowed with such a manly member that fear is struck to all as you strut down the sidewalk. Oops, that would be "open carry" which you are afraid to do. I'm wondering, do you wield your weapon with such skill because you practise with it daily? Perhaps you are an instructor and help others of you ilk with theirs. I am embarrassed that mine is so small that I have to compensate by carrying my 1911 with only a 5" barrel. Ah, to be like you and have such a "machine" that can fend off the evils of the world.
What I don't understand is why you feel the need to come to the Open Carry part of the forum to lecture us. Don't you think we've heard all the drivel before you came along? Your fear doesn't matter to us open carriers. We are perfectly happy with our carry style. Since you don't oc... what could possibly matter to you if it becomes restricted. WE, the open carriers, are truly the ones exercising our rights to carry. Those that find the need to hide in fear are not promoting anything other than the fear they have.
A right unused is a right lost.
Indiana in recent years has passed laws that have been positive on the 2A front,so i am not really worried at this point about the state coming after permit holders because of open carry. I prefer to carry concealed but i support the open carry folks.I seriously dought that every open carry person that does so is a boastful trouble maker that wants to draw attention to themselves,remember it's all the same right that we have.A right should not be restricted because some people are ignorent about said right.Quote:
Originally Posted by RightsEroding
Actually as of july 2011 in indiana (sb292 i believe )it is illegal to prohibit a legaly carried firearm in a public place unless it is on the state mandated no carry list .Since the the Nampa civic center is a polling place it is considerd at that time to be a public place.So you should be able to carry there and the no guns signs are what is unlawful.If the civic center is not a public place then it is a poor choice for a place to vote and the worst that could happen is that you are asked to leave the premises.Quote:
Originally Posted by RightsEroding